Our Soviet Union (USSR)
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So, I've been thinking it over, should the USA be given ''Poland'' status for a while?
By that I fear that while the USA is and will be a great foe as a capitalist nation I think they would be a far greater revolutionary rival given the current disparity between the USSR and them. However using the fear of the USA will gain us many socialist allies in South America.
By that I fear that while the USA is and will be a great foe as a capitalist nation I think they would be a far greater revolutionary rival given the current disparity between the USSR and them. However using the fear of the USA will gain us many socialist allies in South America.
While it would definitely help in the long run but for now we're mainly focusing mainly in Eurasia since we're still rebuilding and modernizing our nation and we already have Stalin there keeping the rebels in a more organized and well trained along suppling them, of course it's only in the Caribbean and Central America (minus Panama since that would make the US start being aggressive) but we can support South America's socialist/communist rebels thru Brazil once the "Brazilian communist uprising" in 1935 succeeds.
*Also we don't want to alienate the US too soon since we're gonna have a common enemy from Japan and some other far-right nation like Italy, some of the Balkan States, and/or Poland since we're supporting a socialist and social democrat in Germany.
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Again sorry for double posting...
I just remembered about the "February 26 Incident" that attempted to* replace Hirohito with his younger brother, Prince Chichibu who wanted complete imperial rule. We could use that to increase more support against the monarchy and corrupted government.
I just remembered about the "February 26 Incident" that attempted to* replace Hirohito with his younger brother, Prince Chichibu who wanted complete imperial rule. We could use that to increase more support against the monarchy and corrupted government.
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Indeed, so maybe concealing our involvement in South America would be wisest?
True with China somewhat Left-leaning "secured" Europe should be the main target, as it is also is the main route of potential attacks, dangers and ou main ideological enemies in the world in opposition to us right now with fascism and nationalism on the rise in the baltics, Balcan and other places there.
Defiently a field day for Japanese Socialists and Communist to preach for true democracy and republicanism while the Army tries to dismantle it, but also dangerous as they might crack down on them harder then most in Europe would (with the exception of Italy or other fascist and nationalist governments there maybe).
While dangerous to be sure but cracking down harder would also increase anti-Imperial and anti-war sentiment on the home island especially once the US nukes them (if/when they have them ready). Also I'm thinking that making Japan become pro-Soviet would help keep our influence in both Asia and the Pacific.
But who would be best for the job and wouldn't that be problematic for anti-monarchist elements wich are very strong after the Civil War?
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Well... we could use someone from Scandinavia who could create it.
Given the revolution was against the monarch, who lost is air of unpartial father of the state close to the Soviet revolution and the many many lives lost in the Civil War, I'd be very very uncertain that is a feasible option. And inviting a foreigner makes it even worse.
Well... we don't have to invite them, just reduce western power in Scandinavia while staying neutral once the Cold War begins.
Idk if this still counts as a double post but... I just got an idea:
We could support the social democrats, socialists, and communists in southern Mexico thru Central America, *by increasing anti-American sentiment but also thru democratic elections since it would weaken America's forces in Central America and the Caribbean while increase isolationism in the US.
We could support the social democrats, socialists, and communists in southern Mexico thru Central America, *by increasing anti-American sentiment but also thru democratic elections since it would weaken America's forces in Central America and the Caribbean while increase isolationism in the US.
Id say yes. Editing your first post and adding the new idea, won't change anything for the negative. But ymmv
Intermarium - Międzymorze
In chase of the Central American Federation, the Soviet Union devises to aid local socialist and communist rebels with instructors, weapons and finances, but no actual own forces, while the Georgian Uprising saw the persecution of the true Georgian Independence Movement members and nobody else. Meanwhile in Europe the Soviet Union hot opposed trough the far-right coups on Poland and Lithuania, who brought to power hostile, anti-Soviet, anti-Communsit and anti-Socialist Governments. In May 12th to 14th the Polish Nation saw Jósef Piłsudski taken over Poland. On May 28th the Portuguese Coup saw Manuel Gomes da Costa establish the Ditadura Nacional (National Dictatorship), that would be followed by António de Oliveira Salazar's Estado Novo.While the Coup in Portugal seams far away, it means a potential strengthening and support of the Far-Right in Spain, which is heavily divided between a Left-Wing Republican and Right-wing Conservative Nationalist Block internally, a divide that would only grow. With the Treaty of Berlin the Soviet Union has it’s first major foreign political and diplomatic success with a major European Power, as both the Soviet Union and Germany pledge neutrality in the even one of them is attacked by a foreign power for the next five years. Later in December the Lithuanians would see their own Coup, when Antanas Smetona took power, by overthrowing a democratic elected government. Unlike in Portugal, this Coup has the Potential to unify the Nationalist, Fascist and Far-Right Governments of Lithuania and Poland to a new Polish-Lithuanian National Commonwealth, which also makes Polish Ambitions of a Intermarium (Międzymorze) Alliance and Defensive System aimed against German and Soviet Ambitions more likely. Some therefore claimed the Soviet Union should aid the local White Russians and Ukrainian dominating the provinces of Eastern Poland to rise up and join the Belorussian SSR and Ukrainian SSR, while also weakening the Polish Nationalists and their ambitious dreams. Others inside the Soviet Union meanwhile argue that the potential rivalries and growing anti-Soviet opposition in China might be weakened and the Far East secured, of the Soviet Union outright integrated Mongolia into the Soviet Union as a SSR and thereby opposed and weakened potential Chiense Irredentism and territorial claims in Central Asia and the Far East.
Poland and Lithuania:
A) encourage White Russian and Ukrainian uprisings.
B) find other ways of internal opposition and regime change.
C) let us wait for now, Poland-Lithuania and Europe are not that important.
Incorporating the Mongolian SSR:
A) yes we need to absorb Mongolia, before the Chinese can do it themselves.
B) a depending Mongolia, guided internally and externally by us is enough.
C) support a neutral Mongolian nation state
D) let the Chinese retake Mongolia if they wish to do so
A) encourage White Russian and Ukrainian uprisings.
B) find other ways of internal opposition and regime change.
C) let us wait for now, Poland-Lithuania and Europe are not that important.
Incorporating the Mongolian SSR:
A) yes we need to absorb Mongolia, before the Chinese can do it themselves.
B) a depending Mongolia, guided internally and externally by us is enough.
C) support a neutral Mongolian nation state
D) let the Chinese retake Mongolia if they wish to do so
B - surely all of the people of Poland and Lithuania must be liberated from their oppressors, not merely the White Russians and Ukrainians.
B, but allow for incorporation if this is the will of the Mongolian People.
