Three Men, One Island - A Cuban Missile Crisis timeline

Too bad, maintaining a foothold in North Africa was the ultimate objective of the French government. Let us recall this instruction from De Gaulle at the start of the Evian negotiations: “Oil is France and only France, the Algerian Sahara is a legal and nationalist fiction with no historical basis. We can accept many things, we cannot abandon the Sahara purely and simply to the F.L.N.'' instructions to the French delegation in May 1961.

Despite everything, France retained 5 military bases in Algeria. Four of them were evacuated in 1967, the last, B2-Namous dedicated to chemical weapons, only in 1978. And I recall the importance of the naval base of Bizerte in Tunisia which was only returned in 1963, around 7,000 French soldiers in 1961 on site. Targeted by the Soviets perhaps?

Otherwise, Spanish Morocco, the Portuguese colonies in Africa, other French territories and overseas departments such as Djibouti will welcome a number of refugees.
 
Chapter 12 – From Russia, with Love
Important Timezones:
- 19:00 D.C. time & Havana time (previous day)
- 00:00 London time
- 01:00 Berlin time & Bonn time
- 03:00 Moscow time
- 05:30 Delhi time
- 08:00 Beijing time

Chapter 12 – From Russia, with Love

4 – 18 November 1962

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“My arms are up to the elbows in blood. That is the most terrible thing that lies in my soul.”

– Nikita Khrushchev




Sergei looks up at the sky; the morning sun is so bright he doesn't need to open his eyes to see it.



The Marshal can feel the vibrations from nearby detonations. Having been moved with his family to this dacha in Nowhereville, Georgia, he knows this war is over. It's not as glorious as the one he'd won seventeen years prior.



Kirill thanks the Lord like he never has done before, he's had to hide his faith for years. Out of his window, his home in Saransk is untouched. The city was never on America's SIOP plans.



Vladimir and Elena embrace one another warmly. He's a soldier, dodging the frontline. If he's going to die, it's going to be here in his wife's arms, not in a ditch in Germany.



Mikhaila doesn't know where her son is. From what she knew the government had been resisting Russian demands to send troops to Germany. He was probably somewhere in Poland.

Daniil sits in his bunker in Poland, counting his lucky stars. He wishes he was anywhere but here, the stress must be killing his mother - if the bombs haven't already.




The Soviet Union effectively ceased to exist between the 3rd and 4th of November 1962. Over those two days, the United States and the United Kingdom dropped over 5,000 megatons on the USSR, the Warsaw Pact and Communist China. Almost every major population centre in the USSR was destroyed, and the few that survived did so either by not being included in SAC's SIOP plan (such as Saransk) or by Anglo-American weapons not reaching their targets (such as Gorky). Over 150,000,000 people, 65% of the pre-war Soviet population, are dead, a statistic only comparable to the devastation in the two Germanies and western Czechoslovakia. Over the next two weeks, a further 40,000,000 Soviets would die. In the rest of the Warsaw Pact, casualty figures span from 15-40% of the pre-war population.

Almost all of the Soviet Army deployed in Germany and in Eastern Europe are dead, almost all of their major cities are gone and much of their remaining territory is either irradiated or on fire. Among the survivors are the GKO in their armoured train. They were between Volgograd and Saratov when the Americans had struck. From there they are able to move to the nearby city of Kamyshin - one of the few surviving in the country - and attempt to re-establish contact with Soviet forces worldwide, to bring the war to an end. The war isn't over yet; technically speaking, it was never formally declared anyway. The GKO are a government without a state. With its major cities obliterated, not only has the Soviet Union been crippled, but the cultural pillars of civilization are wiped out. Intelligentsia, gone. Statesmen, (except for the GKO) gone. Architecture, gone. Religious structures, gone except for the local level. There are still surviving people and settlements, but after 1,100 years, Russia is dead.

Nikita Khrushchev, Russia's Augustulus, sits in the sealed train carriage, he knows he's the last leader Russia will have. He knows it was his idea to put the missiles in Cuba in the first instance. He feels it's his fault. He's destroyed his country, likely forever. Not even the thought that the Americans have suffered a devastating fate too satisfies him - he doesn't know how lightly America got it. By the 9th of November, he's a mess. Neither he nor the rest of the GKO have washed in many days, or shaved, or changed their clothes. They are as broken and ragged as the nation they formally ruled. They also have barely enough food for two weeks. On the 10th, one of the train's guards finds himself unlucky. He made a minor mistake, in usual times this would be overlooked. But now, he's committed a capital offence and he is thrown from the train with a bullet through his temple. One less mouth to feed. Three more meals for the rest. By the 14th, the food situation is intolerable, they have to move. They now move from the train and into the city of Kamyshin itself, well, most of them. Khrushchev takes himself off for a walk in the middle of the day. By the early evening, he is found face down by the waterside of the Volga River with a bullet in his brain. Was he shot, or did he pull the trigger himself? No one will ever know. That evening, the GKO meets and agree to rule as a collective body "for the duration of the present situation". Quickly though, the meeting becomes dominated by a Brezhnev-Malinovsky-Gromyko troika. Their job, end the war, contact the Americans and preserve what little order they can in what small corner of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics they still control. There will be no speeches, no patriotic declarations, just a job to finish.
 
Too bad, maintaining a foothold in North Africa was the ultimate objective of the French government. Let us recall this instruction from De Gaulle at the start of the Evian negotiations: “Oil is France and only France, the Algerian Sahara is a legal and nationalist fiction with no historical basis. We can accept many things, we cannot abandon the Sahara purely and simply to the F.L.N.'' instructions to the French delegation in May 1961.

Despite everything, France retained 5 military bases in Algeria. Four of them were evacuated in 1967, the last, B2-Namous dedicated to chemical weapons, only in 1978. And I recall the importance of the naval base of Bizerte in Tunisia which was only returned in 1963, around 7,000 French soldiers in 1961 on site. Targeted by the Soviets perhaps?

Otherwise, Spanish Morocco, the Portuguese colonies in Africa, other French territories and overseas departments such as Djibouti will welcome a number of refugees.
France will be covered in the next update, along with the rest of Europe. They will still have interests in Algeria, but establishing direct control won't be one of them. The bases are still there as of November 5th.
 
Important Timezones:
- 19:00 D.C. time & Havana time (previous day)
- 00:00 London time
- 01:00 Berlin time & Bonn time
- 03:00 Moscow time
- 05:30 Delhi time
- 08:00 Beijing time

Chapter 12 – From Russia, with Love

4 – 18 November 1962

sa4dxucufv781.jpg

“My arms are up to the elbows in blood. That is the most terrible thing that lies in my soul.”

– Nikita Khrushchev




Sergei looks up at the sky; the morning sun is so bright he doesn't need to open his eyes to see it.



The Marshal can feel the vibrations from nearby detonations. Having been moved with his family to this dacha in Nowhereville, Georgia, he knows this war is over. It's not as glorious as the one he'd won seventeen years prior.



Kirill thanks the Lord like he never has done before, he's had to hide his faith for years. Out of his window, his home in Saransk is untouched. The city was never on America's SIOP plans.



Vladimir and Elena embrace one another warmly. He's a soldier, dodging the frontline. If he's going to die, it's going to be here in his wife's arms, not in a ditch in Germany.



Mikhaila doesn't know where her son is. From what she knew the government had been resisting Russian demands to send troops to Germany. He was probably somewhere in Poland.

Daniil sits in his bunker in Poland, counting his lucky stars. He wishes he was anywhere but here, the stress must be killing his mother - if the bombs haven't already.




The Soviet Union effectively ceased to exist between the 3rd and 4th of November 1962. Over those two days, the United States and the United Kingdom dropped over 5,000 megatons on the USSR, the Warsaw Pact and Communist China. Almost every major population centre in the USSR was destroyed, and the few that survived did so either by not being included in SAC's SIOP plan (such as Saransk) or by Anglo-American weapons not reaching their targets (such as Gorky). Over 150,000,000 people, 65% of the pre-war Soviet population, are dead, a statistic only comparable to the devastation in the two Germanies and western Czechoslovakia. Over the next two weeks, a further 40,000,000 Soviets would die. In the rest of the Warsaw Pact, casualty figures span from 15-40% of the pre-war population.

Almost all of the Soviet Army deployed in Germany and in Eastern Europe are dead, almost all of their major cities are gone and much of their remaining territory is either irradiated or on fire. Among the survivors are the GKO in their armoured train. They were between Volgograd and Saratov when the Americans had struck. From there they are able to move to the nearby city of Kamyshin - one of the few surviving in the country - and attempt to re-establish contact with Soviet forces worldwide, to bring the war to an end. The war isn't over yet; technically speaking, it was never formally declared anyway. The GKO are a government without a state. With its major cities obliterated, not only has the Soviet Union been crippled, but the cultural pillars of civilization are wiped out. Intelligentsia, gone. Statesmen, (except for the GKO) gone. Architecture, gone. Religious structures, gone except for the local level. There are still surviving people and settlements, but after 1,100 years, Russia is dead.

Nikita Khrushchev, Russia's Augustulus, sits in the sealed train carriage, he knows he's the last leader Russia will have. He knows it was his idea to put the missiles in Cuba in the first instance. He feels it's his fault. He's destroyed his country, likely forever. Not even the thought that the Americans have suffered a devastating fate too satisfies him - he doesn't know how lightly America got it. By the 9th of November, he's a mess. Neither he nor the rest of the GKO have washed in many days, or shaved, or changed their clothes. They are as broken and ragged as the nation they formally ruled. They also have barely enough food for two weeks. On the 10th, one of the train's guards finds himself unlucky. He made a minor mistake, in usual times this would be overlooked. But now, he's committed a capital offence and he is thrown from the train with a bullet through his temple. One less mouth to feed. Three more meals for the rest. By the 14th, the food situation is intolerable, they have to move. They now move from the train and into the city of Kamyshin itself, well, most of them. Khrushchev takes himself off for a walk in the middle of the day. By the early evening, he is found face down by the waterside of the Volga River with a bullet in his brain. Was he shot, or did he pull the trigger himself? No one will ever know. That evening, the GKO meets and agree to rule as a collective body "for the duration of the present situation". Quickly though, the meeting becomes dominated by a Brezhnev-Malinovsky-Gromyko troika. Their job, end the war, contact the Americans and preserve what little order they can in what small corner of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics they still control. There will be no speeches, no patriotic declarations, just a job to finish.
Nice they found a surviving city but can they run it without facing an angry mob over their role in the Nuclear hell scape most of Russia has become. I wouldn't be surprised if local garrison troops just shoots them and the USSR becomes just pockets of warlords fiefs.
 
Nice they found a surviving city but can they run it without facing an angry mob over their role in the Nuclear hell scape most of Russia has become. I wouldn't be surprised if local garrison troops just shoots them and the USSR becomes just pockets of warlords fiefs.
When you control the guns and what little food supply the area has, people are quite willing to listen to you.
 
Just wow. 5 gigatons, Russia is free for China to move into, if they themselves haven't been receiving of anything.
The USSR had somewhere over 200 million people in 1960. 150 million die in the bombings and another 40 million die in the weeks thereafter. There are 10-20 million people left by TTL mid-1962.

Applying a similar logic to China there are only 60-100 million people in the (likely former) PRC, which is the worst mass death scenario the country has faced in its long history, bringing its population back down to medieval levels. Not to mention almost all survivors are not in cities. I think nobody would be trying to take over Siberia in this situation. Rather it is likely that the Taiwanese will retake China.
 
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The USSR had somewhere over 200 million people in 1960. 150 million die in the bombings and another 40 million die in the weeks thereafter. There are 10-20 million people left by TTL mid-1962.

Applying a similar logic to China there are only 60-100 million people in the (likely former) PRC, which is the worst mass death scenario the country has faced in its long history, bringing its population back down to medieval levels. Not to mention almost all survivors are not in cities. I think nobody would be trying to take over Siberia in this situation. Rather it is likely that the Taiwanese will retake China.
The Americans will likely push for this as providing some foothold on the mainland.
B_Munro’s cover of For All Time in 2050 had China only with around 200 millions
 
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The USSR had somewhere over 200 million people in 1960. 150 million die in the bombings and another 40 million die in the weeks thereafter. There are 10-20 million people left by TTL mid-1962.

Applying a similar logic to China there are only 60-100 million people in the (likely former) PRC, which is the worst mass death scenario the country has faced in its long history, bringing its population back down to medieval levels. Not to mention almost all survivors are not in cities. I think nobody would be trying to take over Siberia in this situation. Rather it is likely that the Taiwanese will retake China.
Jesus christ. That's low enough numbers to make society itself difficult to run - the cities are gone, and it sounds like anything larger than 1000 people calling itself a town would have been hit as well. How can a society survive on populations that small, spread over a space as wide as Russia?
 
Jesus christ. That's low enough numbers to make society itself difficult to run - the cities are gone, and it sounds like anything larger than 1000 people calling itself a town would have been hit as well. How can a society survive on populations that small, spread over a space as wide as Russia?
Insert Invincible Meme here.

Seriously, you don't. The former USSR will basically be small fiefdoms and towns run by warlords and town mayors(or Russian equivalent) trying to just fucking survive. Society will for lack of better words, be a distant memory for the Russians. Hell, even the Chinese would be very fucking hard pressed to survive if this happened to them today. In 1962, not even 20 years after winning the Civil War and end of WW2? China is probably fucked as a nation too, at least for a few decades.
 
What happens to India and Southeast Asia with Russia and China nuked?also will the us invest in other countries to replace european and japanese markets
 
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The USSR had somewhere over 200 million people in 1960. 150 million die in the bombings and another 40 million die in the weeks thereafter. There are 10-20 million people left by TTL mid-1962.

And the number's only likely to keep dropping even after that, because irradiation on that scale can't be any good for agriculture.

Just wow. 5 gigatons, Russia is free for China to move into, if they themselves haven't been receiving of anything.

I think that if anyone's going to be trying to move in on Soviet territory, it'll be Iran and/or Turkey, and even then, there's limits to what they can do in the current situation.
 
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Indeed, a tragedy. 80% population death is on paper survivable... but with all of its cultural icons and most of its intelligentsia dead, one cannot say the Russian nation remains. Gorky is lucky to have survived. On paper it's very useful for rebuilding civilization, with its many machine building industries. But with the country wrecked, fallout and starvation will soon set in.

Poor, Poor Khrushchev. He doesn't know that Castro was the one that escalated to strategic counter-value strikes. But even then, mobilizing the Red Army was his biggest mistake, and made sure World War 3 in some form would not be turned away.

Why did they wait so long before moving away from where the train was stranded? Just paralysis from shock and despair?
 
Indeed, a tragedy. 80% population death is on paper survivable... but with all of its cultural icons and most of its intelligentsia dead, one cannot say the Russian nation remains. Gorky is lucky to have survived. On paper it's very useful for rebuilding civilization, with its many machine building industries. But with the country wrecked, fallout and starvation will soon set in.

Poor, Poor Khrushchev. He doesn't know that Castro was the one that escalated to strategic counter-value strikes. But even then, mobilizing the Red Army was his biggest mistake, and made sure World War 3 in some form would not be turned away.

Why did they wait so long before moving away from where the train was stranded? Just paralysis from shock and despair?
I think they were on a track leading from someplace that got nuked to somewhere else that got nuked.
 
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