Star Trek Film!
- Thread starter Wanderlust
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I will agree with you re. ROTJ. I don't really share your opinion of the prequels but I had a similar opinion about Enterprise - certainly not the best of Trek, but still watchable, and better than Voyager.
I personally think Voyager was the worst Star Trek series, mostly because I found it so very hard to care about any of them. I can understand why Enterprise gets a lot of heat, but Archer was at least a sympathetic and consistent captain.
Plus (and this was a thought never far from my fevered teenage mind while watching these shows), T'Pol was way hotter than Janeway.
MacCaulay
Banned
Craziest thing about watching that flick in Iowa...
...everyone goes crazy when "Iowa" comes on the screen, of course. Then, since I was there with some rock fans, we start nodding our heads to Sabotage when Kirk turns it on in the car.
Then he drives the car into a ravine, and we all kind of stopped, and looked at each other like..."Ravine? In IOWA? We're lucky if we have a ditch!"
But then he had a fight in what looked like the inside of an Indian Casino, so it's alright.
...everyone goes crazy when "Iowa" comes on the screen, of course. Then, since I was there with some rock fans, we start nodding our heads to Sabotage when Kirk turns it on in the car.
Then he drives the car into a ravine, and we all kind of stopped, and looked at each other like..."Ravine? In IOWA? We're lucky if we have a ditch!"
But then he had a fight in what looked like the inside of an Indian Casino, so it's alright.
yup while I'm in Quebec I was suprise to see ravine in Iowa....maybe some leftover from WWIII
I for one wonder why the hell Pikes, Uhura and the rest had to be to be in Iowa to go to San Franscisco
Though gotta to love how she can come from "Africa" though cannonicly she's from the United States of Africa, so might as well be the generic answer
MacCaulay
Banned
Because the Enterprise was being built at Riverside Shipyard.
Kirk was born in Riverside, Iowa. So he wasn't that far from his house when he saw the ship being completed.
Yea but there is a three years gap and most of them didn't go to the entreprise were they doing tourism or something
While I'm also not sure if I like the way that Kirk cheated in the film, I think it makes some sense. The film is an ATL in which Kirk is more rebellious and reckless than he would be otherwise, so it makes sense that he'd cheat in a very blatant and straightforward manner (disabling the Klingon shields). It never has been established in official Star Trek canon how exactly he cheated, so it's still possible he may have cheated in a more elegant and creative manner in the prime TL (making the Klingons stand down because they're intimidated by his reputation like in the novel). So, you could say that the film's cheating scene is more befitting of the ATL Kirk than the one from the novel would be.
Somewhat ironically, the Beastie Boys are also popular (and still playing shows) in the world of Futurama, which is about a thousand years from now.
MacCaulay
Banned
God bless those black suited body doubles...
"Those guys are busting rhymes with a ninety-six percent success rate!"
Got back from my viewing.
I liked this a lot. After seeing what RDM did to Battlestar Galactica I have thought Star Trek needed a reboot. Has JJ Abrams done it? If not he's damn close. Kirk was a bit hard edged at first but he grew on me. Pine can't copy Shatner, nor would I want him to. Spock was good doing a better job a conveying the pressures of being part human. McCoy was bloody brilliant. Hopefully if we get another movie we can see more and flesh out Uhrua, Sulu, and Chekov. My biggest character beef, not enough Scotty. Simon Pegg was fun
Story wise, it has some flaws but its a convenient way to reset the timeline. One thing I can't understand is why so many people want the next movie or whatever to correct the timeline? The whole point of this movie is to bring new life into the series, not redo the old. I think blasting Vulcan was a ballsy move. Glad to see no matter what TL exists, Starfleet's CINC still can never have units ready to respond to a crisis
The redesign of the Enterprise was nice. My complaint is the nacels. I think they are too big. Otherwise I enjoyed it. Plus semi turreted phasers actually used to in a PDF role I agree with the note that the insides for engineering looked a little too large and too much like a factory or something. However I do think that areas like these should exist just more enclosed and a purposeful design.
In my rating of Trek films,
Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country, Star Trek 2009/First Contact about equal, Voyage Home.
Now I want to see what do the Klingons, standard Romulans, and their craft look like. The TOS period is a great juicy time period. The Klingons and Romulans can form their alliance, or each be a threatening power. Also I think if this universe is expanded we should get some brand stinking new bad guy, good guys, and other stuff.
I say this new Trek TL must be expanded either by more movies or TV.
Pointless EDIT: Is it just me or was the Orion girl really hot? Maybe its the red hair
I liked this a lot. After seeing what RDM did to Battlestar Galactica I have thought Star Trek needed a reboot. Has JJ Abrams done it? If not he's damn close. Kirk was a bit hard edged at first but he grew on me. Pine can't copy Shatner, nor would I want him to. Spock was good doing a better job a conveying the pressures of being part human. McCoy was bloody brilliant. Hopefully if we get another movie we can see more and flesh out Uhrua, Sulu, and Chekov. My biggest character beef, not enough Scotty. Simon Pegg was fun
Story wise, it has some flaws but its a convenient way to reset the timeline. One thing I can't understand is why so many people want the next movie or whatever to correct the timeline? The whole point of this movie is to bring new life into the series, not redo the old. I think blasting Vulcan was a ballsy move. Glad to see no matter what TL exists, Starfleet's CINC still can never have units ready to respond to a crisis
The redesign of the Enterprise was nice. My complaint is the nacels. I think they are too big. Otherwise I enjoyed it. Plus semi turreted phasers actually used to in a PDF role
I agree with the note that the insides for engineering looked a little too large and too much like a factory or something. However I do think that areas like these should exist just more enclosed and a purposeful design. In my rating of Trek films,
Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country, Star Trek 2009/First Contact about equal, Voyage Home.
Now I want to see what do the Klingons, standard Romulans, and their craft look like. The TOS period is a great juicy time period. The Klingons and Romulans can form their alliance, or each be a threatening power. Also I think if this universe is expanded we should get some brand stinking new bad guy, good guys, and other stuff.
I say this new Trek TL must be expanded either by more movies or TV.
Pointless EDIT: Is it just me or was the Orion girl really hot? Maybe its the red hair
Pointless EDIT: Is it just me or was the Orion girl really hot? Maybe its the red hair
Just for kicks, I went to see who that is...someone named Rachel Nichols:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0629697/
Funny, she is also playing Scarlett in the G.I. Joe movie this summer. So you will get more red hair.
Valdemar II
Banned
That was my biggest problem with film, you don't fucking build a giant spaceship on a planet.
Was it established that the ship he saw being built there was actually the Enterprise? Didn't he go up on the shuttle and see the Enterprise docked at a space station the very next day? Maybe I'm misremembering...
Which reminds me... did they ever mention the rest of the graduates- the ones that didn't go to the Enterprise- after the battle at Vulcan? As in, did anyone get away? If they didn't, why wasn't anyone concerned with the majority of graduates that year dying before actually joining Starfleet properly?Pointless EDIT: Is it just me or was the Orion girl really hot? Maybe its the red hair
EDIT: Is it just me or was the Orion girl really hot? Maybe its the red hair
I specifically mentioned her in my first post - so you're not the only one ^^
She has, uh, great curves...
Because they were all wearing red?
Yeah, I'm sure they all fried
No-one goes in such a cool way as Olsen though. He actually seems happy as he dies - proper redshirt style
What a guy.
Edit:
I suppose his death counts as a vaporisation, too. Can't have old-school Star Trek without some vaporisation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3cL1Aofy90
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Yes but he was on his way to the star before it collapsed so how does it get to Romulas before he gets to the star?
No, it wouldn't. Dark matter has utterly different properties from the 'red matter' in the movie. The red matter was more along the lines of strangelets. Also, "Red matter" is actually a term I can see physicists using for exotic type of particles...
@ the Doctor: in regard for science as a backbone of Star Trek, I disagree...
Yes, there was a lot of hard-to-believe stuff in it, but Star Trek had plethora of that stuff from the beginning on.
Why do you disagree, the anomolies and such and all the other information is not specifically tied to true science fact as of now but a lot of it is tied to speculated science facts of the future and such. Its as important as fake science is tied to it.
Very True. You build section or parts and ship them to space. Too much energy to get the thing off planet when its built there. Also you never warp that close in system like they did when they went to Vulcan. You always warp just outside the system or no farther in system then the equivalent of Jupiter to said system.
You probably have a few survivors. With any luck the green skinned ginger (who would have thought that THAT particular combination would have worked) is amonst them.Because they were all wearing red?
Yeah, I'm sure they all fried
No-one goes in such a cool way as Olsen though. He actually seems happy as he dies - proper redshirt style
What a guy.
Edit:
I suppose his death counts as a vaporisation, too. Can't have old-school Star Trek without some vaporisation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3cL1Aofy90