DBWI: No Eurasian War?

[pattontank12]

Well it's official today marks the 65 anniversary of the end of the Eurasian War. For anyone who's been living undee a rock their entire lives the Eurasian war from 1945 to 1953 was the single largest war in human history between the Coalition of Britain, Germany, France, Japan, the US and various other states and the colossal Eurasian State. The pseudo fascist/quasi communistic totalitarian spawn of Baron Ugern Sternberg's conquests of Russia, western China, Persia and India, during the 1920's.

There were various factors leading up to the Eurasian War including the German civil war (1923 to 1927) with the Nationalist victory under Lettow-Vorbeck, the Anglo-Sternberg wars, Russia's collapse into warlordism, the partition of China, the Great depression and Ugern-Sternberg's own death in 1936.

So how would things have been different if the Eurasian War never happened?

 

[GeorgeUK]

Germany would have fallen under a genocidal dictatorship. Atomic weapons would have been used against Japan by the United States, then there would have been a Cold War between the west and Russia.

 

[FieldMarshal]

Germany would have fallen under a genocidal dictatorship. Atomic weapons would have been used against Japan by the United States, then there would have been a Cold War between the west and Russia.

Kek. The Third Reich and the Soviet Union: An Alternate 20th Century is one of the worst series Turtletaub has written yet.

But in any case, the Eurasian War was inevitable once Sternberg declared himself Godhead. You have to understand, the idea of global conquest was hardwired into the Jamsaranist religion. Unless you expect the world to sit idly by and let the Russo-Mongolian hordes rape and pillage their way across the globe, it’s going to happen no matter what.

You’d have to kill Sternberg in the Great War or the Russian Civil War before he could take Mongolia. After that, he’s basically unstoppable. Perhaps a more powerful China or Russia could have defeated him and strangled his wretched empire in the crib, but you’d need a pre-1900 PoD for that.

 

[theg*ddam*hoi2fan]

So how would things have been different if the Eurasian War never happened?

Well, Eastern Siberia might be part of Russia still, rather than having been annexed and settled by the Empire of Japan. Urajiosutoku would still be called 'Vladisvostok'.

And that really let Japan develop from the 1960s onwards. It took them a while to recover from the war, but the natural resources of Siberia let them rebound with a bang.

 

[pattontank12]

Kek. The Third Reich and the Soviet Union: An Alternate 20th Century is one of the worst series Turtletaub has written yet.

I don't know the depiction of Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were interesting and accurate. The one who kicked off the German Civil War and the Georgian dictator respectively.

But in any case, the Eurasian War was inevitable once Sternberg declared himself Godhead. You have to understand, the idea of global conquest was hardwired into the Jamsaranist religion. Unless you expect the world to sit idly by and let the Russo-Mongolian hordes rape and pillage their way across the globe, it’s going to happen no matter what.

You’d have to kill Sternberg in the Great War or the Russian Civil War before he could take Mongolia. After that, he’s basically unstoppable. Perhaps a more powerful China or Russia could have defeated him and strangled his wretched empire in the crib, but you’d need a pre-1900 PoD for that.

Yeah Sternberg's Empire was a whole lot of insanity. That some how manage to hold itself together after he kicked the bucket. Turning into a junta of various warlords and autocrats by the time the war kicked off.

Well, Eastern Siberia might be part of Russia still, rather than having been annexed and settled by the Empire of Japan. Urajiosutoku would still be called 'Vladisvostok'.

And that really let Japan develop from the 1960s onwards. It took them a while to recover from the war, but the natural resources of Siberia let them rebound with a bang.

Don't forget that the US also carved out it's own chunk of Siberia or west Alaska.

Wonder how technology would be different the war helped finally perfect the tank, introduced helicopters and assault rifles and eventually the atomic bomb.

 

[Anarcho-Occultist]

I wonder how this would have altered geopolitics. The Cold War might not have been between nationalist and liberal states, since the Eurasian State largely stomped out communism for like 40 years (well aside from in the smaller states like Georgia, Yugoslavia and Tibet). We could have ended up with a 3-way grapple instead or a Eurasian War counterpart against communist states.

 

[pattontank12]

I wonder how this would have altered geopolitics. The Cold War might not have been between nationalist and liberal states, since the Eurasian State largely stomped out communism for like 40 years (well aside from in the smaller states like Georgia, Yugoslavia and Tibet). We could have ended up with a 3-way grapple instead or a Eurasian War counterpart against communist states.

That would be both interesting and scarry in and off itself. Sure has much has the libertarian and nationalist blocls claim to be against each other they have more in common than they'd like to admit and frequently do business with each other. A communist Russia on the other hand would be incompatible with the west.