Bob Lee's Body

Japhy

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Part I: Untitled Opening
Robert E Lee in the fall of 1859 was one of the United States Army’s most well-known and respected soldiers. Hero of Indian battles and the Mexican War, the man who saved St. Louis via his engineering skill, the son of George Washington’s trusted cavalry commander and husband of Martha’s granddaughter, former superintendent of west point, groomed successor to Winfield Scott and in just a few years’ time destined to be the most famous and glorified General of the yet-to-be-born Confederate States of America.

But before he could cement his reputation as “The Marble Man” there was one last triumph to be made for the Union. And for the sake of this discussion, the possibility of his death in combat there; the location was Harper’s Ferry and the battle would be between Lee, and the Abolitionist radical John Brown. Brown of course was attempting to seize the town, and the US Arsenal within it so as to raise an army of Escaped slaves before pushing aside the government reaction, and marching south along the mountains, and raiding the lowlands. And of course he was doomed in this attempt, no matter what. The raid was relatively a small affair considering the Civil War that would follow it, One US Marine killed, Seven dead civilians, Two dead slaves, and of course the death and capture (which meant the same thing on the far side of a trial) of all but three of Brown’s followers (Two of whom died in the Civil War.)

But there were some potshots fired from Brown’s fire-turned-blockhouse before the Marines finally were able to storm the place and break down the doors. It’s all random chance, unaimmed shots and inaccurate weapons, but what if one of the rounds of lead hit something important? Like for example, the right temple of a slightly greying, mustachioed, southern aristocrat in uniform as he peaked over one of the barricades that had been set up between his mixed forces and the rebels?

I would suggest that things would be highly effected by this in at least two fields, one being that of Southern Politics, where “The gallant Lee” will be a far more powerful lightning rod then the IOTL dead at Harper’s Ferry. The other is that of the United States Army, not only where a Colonelcy has just been opened up but where Brevet Lieutenant General Winfield Scott has just lost his most promising and favored officer. For the sake of this bit of work I’m willing to assume that the shakeups in both of these are bound to be rather dramatic, and will in their own ways, seriously change the American Civil War right from the very start (Obviously, or what is the point of writing this?)

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Robert E Lee’s body was not yet cold by the time that the Marines battered down the doors of the Harper’s Ferry fire station and killed or captured the band of Abolitionist rebels with in. John Brown was dragged off in chains, bound for a Treason trial by the State of Virginia for his crimes, and the inevitable noose that would follow. Lee on the other hand would leave Harper’s Ferry in a pine box. There would be some debate over what to do with the corpse. The Military Academy wished him brought up North to join its hallowed Graves, then there were those in Virginia that wished for him a hero’s burial in Richmond. As Southern voices grew more and more enraged over the events at the arsenal, eventually the army would acquiesce and Lee’s Tomb would begin to rise in the city, a monument to the noble son of the state, slayed by the dangerous Yankees.

The monument and the hanging of Brown would not be enough to quell the anger in the South. It was clear to many that the South was under siege now. The Republicans were now the leading opposition party to the Democrats, they wanted to end slavery, Slave Kansas was failing to gain acceptance in the North, its failure and Northern anger about the Dread Scott decision meant that the threat of Slavery being limited to just a corner of the Nation was looming once again. Now abolitionists sought to have Southern property murder their owners in their sleep, to rape their women and destroy their civilization. Harper’s Ferry, and the dead Colonel Lee were rallying calls for the most reactionary element of Southern Politics, the Fire-Eaters [1]. Proof that they were right and that the Southern way of life was under threat; that action needed to be taken.

And it was. From Baltimore to Galveston moribund militias transformed themselves into well drilled companies, entirely new units sprung up with paramilitary furor, Bonnie Blue Flags, and names like the Cherokee Lincoln Killers and Lee’s Bodyguards (One of those was IOTL). In Washington the Southern demands grew harsher and the options for Compromise grew smaller. Stephen Douglas’ Freeport Doctrine where Slave Codes could be made in territories where Slavery was unstoppably open to try and make it harder for slave-owners, once a moderate point of compromise, now became unspeakable in the South and as evil as what Fremont and Seward peddled. There was now a non-negotiable need for a Slave Kansas, and a Federal Slave Code, Slavery needed to come to the Dakota Territory and Montana, The Free-soil status of California needed to be renegotiated. Simply put, the needs of the Fire-eaters were now more important than the needs of the “Moderates” and the needs of the accommodating Northern Democrats (Who still had to appeal to their own constituents).

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The shake ups in the Army though were different. BLTG Winfield Scott had just lost the man that since the Fall of Mexico City, he had always assumed would command the next US Army in wartime, not only that but the old veteran had lost a dear friend. Lee had not been on active duty when he was killed, had he been, he would have been down in Texas, but there would have to be moves none the less, at least one important one anyway.

With the exception of Lee, Albert Sidney Johnston was the officer Scott trusted most with the army in the Country. That was why it had been Johnston who had commanded US forces in the “Utah War” against the Mormons in 1857, where he had earned a Brevet Promotion to Brigadier General. [2] In the Fall of 1860 he was being prepared to command the Department of the Pacific, out in California, an important command but with Lee dead perhaps too far away. Scott liked to keep his heirs close, not a transcontinental trip (Via Panama or Nicaragua depending on how William Walker and Cornelius Vanderbilt were doing at a given moment) away. But keeping Johnston east of the Rockies required shifts in commands elsewhere, and a need for someone to command from San Francisco.

For Scott the solution was easy enough. Brigadier General David Twiggs had served with Scott in Mexico, where the commanding General had developed a less then high opinion of the Georgian officer. Since that war, Twiggs had sat in San Antonio, with an eye on the Mexican border, commanding all US troops and arsenals in Texas. The suggestion was made that with the Reform (That is to say Civil) War in Mexico underway perhaps a younger commander could be assigned to protect the United States from that conflict spilling over. Twiggs in turn would get sent out to Dusty, distant California, where Scott hoped he might soon grow tired of Army life and retire for good. In the 2nd U.S. Cavalry, George H Thomas was given a brevet promotion to Colonel to fill the gap Lee had left behind, while there were several officers more senior then him the brevet nature of the promotion, the fact that Thomas had been effectively leading the force for some time due to the absence of Johnston, Lee and William Hardee, and Johnston’s whole-hearted support for the measure meant that there was little criticism.
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As Scott shuffled his commanders and promotions around to fill the gap caused by the loss of Lee, Kanas continued to bleed, Congress continued to deadlock, and by the next spring, the campaign for President began. The Democrats were the first to assemble in Charleston, South Carolina in order to find the replacement for President Buchanan, the pre-eminent Doughface that had though his Pro-Southern stances alienated the North and by being a Northerner offended the Southern Delegations greatly. Just as they had in 1856 the party would thus be throwing out their incumbent and seeking a replacement. But before that could even be voted on, a platform was needed. And this is where the Fire-Eaters would cause the most trouble.

Two reports on what the platform should look like appeared. The Majority report was Pro-Southern, it called for a Federal Slave Code, Re-opening of the Slave Trade in Washington DC, The embracing of the Dread Scott decision, and continual territorial expansion (With eyes on Northern Mexico, Central America – Where hopes were pinned on more success with the Filibuster William Walker – and the Spanish Island of Cuba) as well as the standards of a low tariff, and a call for a Transcontinental Railroad [3]. The Northern delegates balked at the idea, their minority report being based on either rejection of the Dread Scott ruling by the Freeport Doctrine, with the hope of an eventual return to Popular Sovereignty. Northern Democrats, from Tammany Hall’s delegation to Stephen A Douglas all agreeing that the South had to accept these terms, or accept the loss of every single Northern State. As the debate ebbed back and forth the Charlestonian Crowd, massively pro-slavery unsurprisingly, were screaming insults and threats at the northern delegates, and cheering every word from the Southern Fire-eaters. The convention was spiraling out of control.

When the vote was finally able to take place, after hours of objections and speeches, too few Southerners accepted the Northern pleas for compromise [4]. The majority report passed, and then the walk-outs began. 40 Northern Delegates led by angry Tammany members stormed out, On the first ballot, Stephen A Douglas the leading Northern candidate, hated by the South now for his Freeport Doctrine and opposition to the entry of Slave Kansas, had a clear lead, of 99 ½ votes but it Convention rules demanded he receive two thirds of the total vote. The Southern delegates pledged to oppose him at all costs, and while they lacked a single candidate to unite behind, Douglas could not unite the Northerners who stayed [5]. Then on the 12th ballot a Dark Horse was thrown in: Former Governor of Georgia, Former Speaker of the House of Representatives and current Secretary of the Treasury T. Howell Cobb. Cobb may not have been a Fire-eater but was close enough, and anyway, many prominant members of the faction quickly threw him their support. By the 15th Ballot he was uniting the remaining Doughfaces and Southern delegations behind him, on the 18th he had gotten 103 delegates to Douglas’ declined 97, and on the 19th he broke the 50% mark, With 139 ½ delegates. Suddenly a break in the nomination votes was called, then a Motion appeared to change the rules of the convention, allowing a simple majority to assure the nomination, among the remaining Northern Delegates there was uproar, several more left the hall, more left after the motion was approved [6]. On the next Ballot, Cobb received 141 delegates, to Douglas’ 78. And then the convention exploded. As Cobb rose to the stage to accept the nomination, the crowds on the upper levels of the hall screaming with glee, the remnants of the Northern Delegations stormed out, with only a handful of doughfaces who had climbed aboard bandwagon remaining.

Inside the hall, the Southern convention made a gesture to their remaining Northern allies and the Northern public by nominating yet another Doughface as Vice President, Senator Jesse D Bright of Indiana [7]. Outside the convention hall, the scattered, angry Northern Democrats vowed to meet again in a few weeks’ time in New York, at Tammany Hall itself to plan their own course of action in the aftermath of the convention. It was clear that either the Southerners were going to have to see reason and negotiate, or the Northern wing of the party was going to have take drastic actions.


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[1]- Worth mentioning here that by the late 1850’s Politics in the South looked like such: the Democratic Party was completely ascendant, and had been since the Southern Whigs had collapsed over the Slavery issue. The Fire-Eaters were the faction of the Democrats who were basically Southern Nationalists, the adherents of Secession who would eventually be the ones complaining that the Confederacy was too centralized. You then had the “Moderate” Democrats who were those who worked with the Northern Democrats (Hunkers and Doughfaces; Pro-South and VERY Pro-South) and who generally thought the system in the Union could work, they ranged from old Compromisers to those who wanted Federal Slave Codes for the territories, which is to say they weren’t that moderate. Then you had the Ex-Whigs, both within the Democrats and outside of them in remains of the American “Know-Nothing” Party and the less organized but aptly named Opposition Party. They would either join the “Moderates” or provide the core of Southern Unionism during the war. Note, this is a massively simplistic view of things.
[2] Incidentally the Second Time he held a General’s Rank, he’d already done it back during his time in the Republic of Texas, and then of course, he did it a third time after all of this.
[3] Just one of those was considered IOTL and not put into the Majority Southern Report. That was the Slave Trade in Washington DC. The rest is real, with the last two being thrown in as Pro-Southern things which might appeal to the North. Though the Tariff thing is immensely more popular in the South then the North and they’re neglecting to mention that the preferred Railway wouldn’t go through Illinois and Missouri, but Texas out of El Paso.
[4] This is a change from IOTL, there, the argument of the Northern Democrats, both Buchananite and Douglasian were able to convince many Ex-Whigs and Moderate Southerners that the Southern Platform would doom the party everywhere North of the Mason-Dixon. Increased Southern radicalism here prevents that. IOTL, it was 50 Southern Delegates who led the first walkout from the convention after the passing of the Northern Platform, the situation is now reversed.
[5] Douglas IOTL got a majority of the delegates, just not 2/3rds worth. He wasn’t able to unite the Northern delegates at all, including famously Ben Butler soon to be the Union General known as the “Beast” whom voted in 57 straight ballots for Senator Jefferson Davis. Walkout on Douglas’ side rather than the Fire-eaters is making things much harder for him and opens things up for the fire-eaters of course.
[6] IOTL at the second Democratic convention in Baltimore, after the complete Southern Walkout, Douglas instituted the same rule change to get the nomination then and there. It’s not impossible to imagine a similar situation breaking out at this much more hectic convention, in reverse.
[7] Bright was so Pro-Southern a man that he would be the only Northerner expelled from the Senate during the Civil War for supporting the Confederacy, both by recognizing Jefferson Davis as President, and by trying to sell the Confederacy weapons.

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Well here's an attempt at something thats new for once. Comments are always welcome.
 
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Amazing!

This looks like it will be fantastic. The start is very well done, and in a very plausible way. Looking forwards to MORE!
 

Japhy

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Well thank you all for the positive feedback on this so far, and I do fully intend to write more, but as a sign of how shoddy one critical moment of research was. I have to admit, Quitman is already dead in 1860. :eek:

And while there are parts of the Democratic Party where the dead can vote or run for Governor of Missouri, a pulse is required at least to get nominated.

Clearly that will have to be edited, at some point tonight, and then I'll move on to whats going to happen with all those Northern Democrats, the Ex-Whigs, and that other party thats around at the time.
 

Japhy

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And now The Role of John A Quitman will be played by T. Howell Cobb...

Kudos the the lost, and departed former mod Maverick for being the first to spot that error...
 
Very great beginning. I'm waiting with baited breath for what comes next...

Bobby Lee's body lies a-mouldering in the grave,
While weep the sons of bondage whom he ventured to keep slave;
But though he lost his life in struggling as a knave,
His lies are marching on.

Glory! Glory! Glory for the North!
Glory to the soldiers she is sending forth!
Glory! Glory! Glory for the North!
They'll conquer as they go.

Bobby Lee died that the slaves might stay in chains,
Virginny knew his valor when he fought for wrongs and pains,
And now when the grass grows green above his banes,
His lies are tumbling down!

Glory! Glory! Glory for the North!
Glory to the soldiers she is sending forth!
Glory! Glory! Glory for the North!
They'll conquer as they go.
 

Japhy

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Now that, is one original POD., You sir, are going to have one EPIC timeline.

Subscribing.

This looks like it will be fantastic. The start is very well done, and in a very plausible way. Looking forwards to MORE!

Very, very intrigued. Sub'd.

By Aesbisia, please change the font.

Otherwise I'm loving it so far, looks very interesting.

I will admit I'm very grateful for all of the positive feedback and interest, hope I don't let everyone down.

Bobby lees body lies amouldring in the grave,
bobby lees body....
:)

Very great beginning. I'm waiting with baited breath for what comes next...

Bobby Lee's body lies a-mouldering in the grave,
While weep the sons of bondage whom he ventured to keep slave;
But though he lost his life in struggling as a knave,
His lies are marching on.

Glory! Glory! Glory for the North!
Glory to the soldiers she is sending forth!
Glory! Glory! Glory for the North!
They'll conquer as they go.

Bobby Lee died that the slaves might stay in chains,
Virginny knew his valor when he fought for wrongs and pains,
And now when the grass grows green above his banes,
His lies are tumbling down!

Glory! Glory! Glory for the North!
Glory to the soldiers she is sending forth!
Glory! Glory! Glory for the North!
They'll conquer as they go.

I will admit that I had only really thought that up to as far as Dathi had written, kudos to Evan for filling the rest of that out. Also appreciate both of you being interested.

This will be good.

I'm very excited to see Thomas get a promotion. As a southern unionist, he's a personal hero.

Well thank you. Thomas' promotion isn't really that exciting a turn of events. The three leading Officers of the 2nd Cavalry Regiment (Which has been long rumored to be then Secretary of War Jefferson Davis' failsafe for Southern Defense in the 1850's :rolleyes:)beyond him were A.S. Johnston, R.E. Lee, and W.J Hardee, IOTL they were usually off on detached duty, here one's been promoted out, one is of course dead and Hardee is on detached duty being Commandant of Cadets at West Point and writing on tactics. Promoting Thomas is simply the means of allowing for the rank to follow reality. That said, he does definitely deserve it at that point.
 

Japhy

Banned
Annnnd... Here's the next part of this. Comments, Thoughts and Criticism always welcome.


Part II: Ex-Whigs, Ex-Whigs, and Ex-Democrats

As the Democratic National Convention in Charleston was wrapping up, a telegram arrived from Washington, as President James Buchanan announced his full support of the development of the platform for the party and the ticket that had been produced [1]. The crowd and the convention cheered as Buchanan disregarded the Northern walkout and declared the party and the nation united behind Nominee Cobb. But as had been predicted by the Northern Machines, Governors, and Senators the news North of the Mason-Dixon line was much worse. Democratic Party meetings became sites of protests and walk outs. Even in Tammany Hall’s great first-floor bar, there was trouble, as fist fights began to break out between those who supported the official party line, Cobb, and his platform, and those whom saw only the destruction of the Party down this path [2]. As the Northern parties began to crack under the immense weight from on-South, it became clear to the State Governors and Party bosses that they had no choice but to join in the “Tammany Convention” that the walk-out faction had scheduled, and that decision allowed for what could have been a minor, fringe event to gain serious prominence. But as the Democrats of the North soul-searched and prepared for that event, others moved into action.

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The Fire-Eaters in the months before the Democratic Convention had gained much more prominence by playing up the Raid on Harper’s Ferry and announcing that the South was under siege. But for every Southern man who joined a milita, supported a radical candidate, or even went up to the Kansas-Missouri border where Violence was flaring up, there were others who feared what the extreme platform they had created for the Democrats would mean. Factions in the Southern Democrats who had more in common with the Opposition found it very easy in such circumstances to simply walk out of the Party and many of them, Ex-Whigs and old time Democrats who had found more in common with them did just that. A month after the Democratic Convention, and just a few days before the Republicans would meet, a new Party was born in Baltimore, made up of those Ex-Whig Democrats, Southern Oppositionists, and the remains of the unabsorbed Whig and American Parties [3], this one taking up the Name of the Constitutional Union Party [4].

The rules of the National Union Party convention were simple, delegations had arrived from all states except South Carolina and Oregon, and each delegation would have as many votes to cast as there were Electoral votes for that state. The candidates ran the gauntlet from Old Whigs, to Know-Nothings, to Jacksonian Democrats. The party platform was easily established. There was no stance on Slavery, there was no stance on the status of Slavery in the Territories, or on Kansas Statehood, on Dread Scott, the Fugitive Slave Act, the Tariff. The only stance was that level-headed compromise was the only thing that could save the nation. The platform was in fact one of the shortest in US Political History, and thus can be included here:

“Whereas, Experience has demonstrated that Platforms adopted by the partisan Conventions of the country have had the effect to mislead and deceive the people, and at the same time to widen the political divisions of the country, by the creation and encouragement of geographical and sectional parties; therefore

Resolved, that it is both the part of patriotism and of duty to recognize no political principle other than THE CONSTITUTION OF THE COUNTRY, THE UNION OF THE STATES, AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAWS, and that, as representatives of the Constitutional Union men of the country, in National Convention assembled, we hereby pledge ourselves to maintain, protect, and defend, separately and unitedly, these great principles of public liberty and national safety, against all enemies, at home and abroad; believing that thereby peace may once more be restored to the country; the rights of the People and of the States re-established, and the Government again placed in that condition of justice, fraternity and equality, which, under the example and Constitution of our fathers, has solemnly bound every citizen of the United States to maintain a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.[5]”​

The simple platform out of the way, it was time for the speeches. John Crittenden the heir to Henry Clay in Kentucky Politics and Edward Everett, the former Secretary of State were both there in the hall, Everett giving one of his more eloquent shows. Letters were publicly read from Former President and Know-Nothing Candidate Millard Filmore, John Bell of Tennessee, and the Former President of Texas (Amongst a long list of other offices) Sam Houston [6]. The most prominent letter though came from Commander Sidney Smith Lee, USN. The brother of the late Colonel Lee spoke of how his family had been supporters for Union since the start and that his martyred brother would have fully supported the search for a solution to the Slavery question with peace, diplomacy, and the Constitution [7]. (“For which he proudly fought for and willingly gave his life too” so said the letter.) The speeches over, the convention was directed by Chairmen Washington Hunt, to begin the selection of a candidate, after a quick vote assured that a simple majority would be all that was needing, and thus avoiding the Democratic Problem in Charleston. Thus a candidate would need more than 146 votes to win.

The results of the First Round were scattered, though three candidates had developed clear leads. John Crittenden had secured 67 votes, Sam Houston had 60, and Everett had 57. The next closest candidate was former President Fillmore with 29, the least were for Sidney S Lee, who received one vote cast solely on the basis of his letter, rather than any interest in a nomination [8].

The rush after this vote was the first time that the Convention truly showed activity, the old men of government at last being interested in seizing a nomination that was up for grabs. The key move was when Everett received assurances from the Texan delegation, as to what Houston had said to them in private letters and telegrams. The Massachusetts one time Secretary rose to announce that he was endorsing “Former President, Governor, and Senator Samuel Houston”.

In the next round of voting things coalesced very quickly. Houston had been able to get 131 delegates, while Crittenden was able to raise his own total up to 97. The Former Know-Nothing and Whig Die-Hard factions of the party scrounged up almost the entirety of the remainder for Fillmore, who got 65, with 10 more being scattered. At this point though, neither Crittenden nor Fillmore’s supporters could maintain their positions. Delegates changed votes and a third ballot was never begun. After the second round changes Houston was able to secure 178 delegates and the convention was his. In one round of voting that followed the Convention Chairmen Washington Hunt became the Ex-Know-Nothing Challenger, and Bell the Southern Challenger to Everett who still was able to secure a majority at the outset. Houston’s telegraphed address was read aloud at the convention, and the Constitutional Union Party entered the presidential race.

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A week later, the Republicans met in Chicago with high hopes. The official Democratic platform was being commonly viewed as something between hideous and insane in the Northern states, and visions of a clean sweep from California to Maine were being openly discussed. The fight between the canidates was anything but easy, William Seward being the leading figure, followed by Abraham Lincoln, Salmon Chase, Simon Cameron, and Edmund Bates [9]. The party platform fight was simple enough, the fight was between Radicals who wanted a repeat of 1856, calling for the abolition of Slaves across the Union, and the moderates who sought to reverse Dread Scott, end or curtail Slavery’s expansion into the Territories, but to leave it where it was. While Seward came out in support for an Abolition plank, it was deemed useful by the party to follow a more moderate platform, in the hopes of wooing more disenchanted Democrats, maybe even in the Upper South. David Davis, Lincoln’s campaign manager fully supported this move, and rallied popular support on the convention floor for it. And thus a moderate tone was set at the convention [10]. This moderate tone would be what helped secure the Republican Ticket, problems quickly arose with Seward who was unable to shake off his radical reputation while maintaining the loyalty of that faction.

Seward had a slight lead on the first ballot but Lincoln was close behind, 173.5 to 102. (The next nearest to them was Simon Cameron with 50.5.) Davis was able to leverage and Seward’s supposed radicalism into a position of strength for Lincoln. On the second ballot it was 184.5 for Seward, 181 for Lincoln, and on the third ballot Lincoln won 231.5 to 180 Seward, when adjustments were made and candidates walked Lincoln had 349 to Seward’s 111.5, and to the horror of those whom viewed Lincoln as a country buffoon, he had secured the nomination [11]. The problem then was selecting the VP. As the telegraphs poured in from around the country to be read at news of the result, Davis met with the representatives of the various party factions, the Radicals, the Ex-Know Nothings, and the Ex-Democrats. And to each deals were made. Seward would be Secretary of State, Salmon Chase would become Secretary of the Treasury, as Seward’s move to the Center had offended many radicals, whom were appeased by an offer to John C. Fremont to join the cabinet [12], other opponents and patrons being handed their own promises to an array of Federal offices, and contracts. But with those favors handed out and accepted, Davis laid down the price, the Party would have to nominate a former Democrat to be the VP nominee, someone who could appeal to the folks who had been most offended by the Charleston Platform. And some cigars and whiskey’s later the decision had been made.

Nathaniel P Banks was the outgoing Governor of Massachusetts, and had been a Chase supporter at the Convention, and unlike Lincoln his soon to be boss, he was actually at the Convention to make his speech, the point of it being quickly and well crafted, Banks was a moderate, he was once a Democrat, he supported the limiting of Slavery , and that pesky few years that he was a know-nothing were minimized dramatically [13]. And while the German American votes in the Party were angered by this, there wasn’t much in the way of candidates to oppose him. Banks secured the nomination for Vice President on the first ballot, facing only a scattering of votes against him.

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And then came the Convention at Tammany Hall, a few weeks after the Constitutional Union and Republican Tickets had been established. It was a smaller convention then the other parties had had, but it still filled up the large Second Floor auditorium and the first floor bar at the Machine headquarters. The party leaders in all the Northern States had sent delegations, and a few representatives from the Border states, and even Virginia and Tennessee were there. The chairmen was Former New York Senator Daniel S Dickenson and the first order of business was unique in American Political History, the Convention was asked, what its own purpose was: should the meeting simply request changes to the Charleston Platform or should they take more drastic action?

Stephen A Douglas was present at the convention and announced publicly that he could not support the Charleston Platform, and for the first time declared open opposition to the Dread Scott ruling, furthermore as he had no faith that Cobb would be willing to accept any compromise on that issue, he felt there was no reason to kowtow to the platform and assure the complete defeat of the Northern Democrats [14]. As the uproar this caused died out the next speaker was a young Tammany Hall up and comer, Daniel Sickles, it was the first public appearance by the Congressmen since Summer of 1859 [15]. Sickles supported Douglas’ stance, saying that since it was clear that the (Southern) Party would not reject the Charleston Platform, it was for the survival of the party of Jefferson and Jackson that the Northern Wing would have to go on its own. Sickles point included that there would be room to negotiate after the Northern Wing had won its battles; to bring about changes before the Electoral College met. At this point Dickenson on Tammany orders finally allowed Charles O'Conor, an Anti-Tammany New York Democrat to take to the podium [16]. O’Conor for all of his own skill at speaking was in a weak position, the first two speakers had convinced the delegation of a split, those who would most oppose it were already leaving, to form the Northern cadres for Cobb or Houston, and while O’Conor did not outright call for a full endorcement of the Charleston Platform, he came close enough. The vote for a separate ticket passed 166 to 20 [17].

The platform fight was also rough, and at once tied itself into the fight for this parties nominee. The Democratic Party in the North in 1860 could be said to have two main factions, but many players besides. There was the Douglas faction, which following their leaders views, supported Popular Sovereignty as the solution to Slavery, increased Democracy (Skirting on in some cases supporting Direct Election of Senators), and in a page from the Whig’s old playbook a Federal Government determined to support Internal Improvements (Like the Railroads that Douglas was on very sound social, political, and financial terms with). Against that was the faction of President Buchanan, more States Rights prone, less interested in Internal Improvements, dominated by Pro-Southern Doughfaces they were themselves torn over a solution to Dread Scott, on one end accepting it to on the other end, supporting a Constitutional Border for where Slavery would end [18]. On top of this there were the Machines, interested less in the complexities of Slavery as in getting their voters out on Election Day, which would require a platform that would appeal to the working Poor, those Democrats who in turn opposed the Machines (Men like O’Conor who had already, walked out, and were at this time followed by the man himself). There was also an element in the Party that was very close to the Republicans, ex-Barnburners who hadn’t joined the Republicans. The fight thus, for the platform would be a complete one.

There was Douglas himself, and the Buchananite banner against him was raised by the Attorney General Jeremiah S Black [19], who accepted the idea of a separate ticket but called for a more conciliatory platform with the Southern Wing, Tammany nominated its own Candidate in Fernando Wood [20], Thomas Swann of Maryland [21] was nominated by delegates from Maryland, Delaware, and Tennessee [22]. Lastly another New Yorker, John A. Dix represented the more hardline separation faction [23]. The power though was in the hands of Douglas and of Black. The two fought over nearly every plank of the Democratic Platform, but as the struggle went on it became Clear that Douglas had the support of the other candidates on platform, Internal Improvements, Government support for a Transcontinental Railroad, Opposition to annexations in Central America, and a Constitutional reversal of Dread Scott, allowing territories to choose for themselves whether Slavery would be legal or not with in them. The Pro-Douglas Platform passed, 108 to 68.

The lead was less for Douglas when the vote actually came up as supporters went back to their own parties. Douglas had the lead with 65, Black had 50, Dix 30, Wood 19, and Swann 12. To win, as the contention was also breaking with Charleston Rules, a candidate needed 88 delegates to win due to walk outs. On the second vote Black and Douglas were each able to gain more support Douglas received 82 votes, to Blacks 63. At this moment Dix and Wood (Under the orders of Tammany) endorsed Douglas who rose up to 111 Delegates and secured the nomination. As Douglas rose to speak though another Walk out occurred, as the Buchanan faction deserted, to join the Cobb camp. After Douglas’ acceptance speech which broke common tradition by being delivered by himself, the convention then chose on the first ballot Douglas’ pick for Vice President: Sanford E. Church former Lieutenant Governor and Comptroller of New York, a Tammany acceptable candidate without any problems from being actively connected to any political machine.

While there was a sense of relief for many Northern Democrats, President Buchanan and Former President Pierce both came out vocally opposed to Northern Democratic Decision. The firmly placed platform of the Tammany Convention were such that Cobb openly denounced any attempt at reconciliation, nationally or locally between the party factions, in this he was supported by the President and the National Committee, Houston and the Constiutional Unions were more polite, but any consideration of unification was out of the question so long as the Northern Democrats took so partisan a stance [24]. Though no one save Lincoln would like it, the Democratic Party was moving into its next election, irreversibly fragmented.
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Notes

[1] IOTL Buchanan would eventually make the unpleasant decision to endorse the Breckinridge Democratic ticket, due to his fight with Douglas in the North. With Cobb, as the official nominee its even easier for him to do so, as he had hoped Cobb would be his political heir, and its his enemies that have stormed out of the Convention. And so, an easier endorsement for him to make and in his opinion, an easier remaining time in office.

[2] Not as unsurprising as you would think, the years before the Civil War are filled with rough political violence. Tammany became the patron of the immigrant vote in New York by using mobs to cripple the Know-Nothing vote and built its power by targeting Whigs and Republicans, even robbing Post Offices to seize votes at times. The inner city machines (Tammany Included) had long had their fair share of fights between the Hunkers and Barnburners of the party (Pro- and Anti- Southern factions. I know, way too many stupid faction names, I know)

[3] The American Party of course better known by their nickname, the Know-Nothing Party. The Anti-Immigrant party that had won Maryland and the Whig endorsement in the 1856 election, they had only been able to survive this long in the South, just as the Opposition Party (The other Whig break-away) and the pathetic corpse of the Whig Party, only because Southern Membership to the Anti-Slavery Republicans was an immediate non-starter.

[4] Also Considered: Union Party, Constitution Party, National Party, and the New Federalists. They were not a very creative bunch, as can be proved by the fact that all of those names have been used as Party names in some very mediocre timelines on AH.com.

[5] That is, in fact the IOTL document.

[6] In reality, Fillmore, Crittenden and Everett were all supposed to speak at the convention and skipped out, sending only letters of support to be read on the Convention floor. Here the more dramatic political situation gets two of them there, and several more to write in. Everett would have in turn given what at the time would be considered a rather impressive speech as the man was most known for his oratory, in fact in 1863 he was the featured guest at the opening of the Gettysburg Cemetery, with Lincoln being added on as an afterthought.

[7] The other Lee was Superintendent at the Annapolis Naval Academy (The only two brothers to ever command separate Service colleges) and would become a Confederate Admiral during the War. There was no letter from any Lee’s at the Constitutional Union Convention but it seems clear the family supported that ticket, recalling that Light Horse Harry had been a Southern Federalist, the family had long followed a Whiggish tradition. His brothers prominence simply means that the Commander can speak more freely and use that weight to try and back a more moderate ticket. Considering what caused this Fire-Eater rise, I find it also to be richly ironic.

[8] In reality John Bell had the lead, with Houston in second, Crittenden in Third (All with more then 50 votes) and Everett in a distant fourth. Fillmore wasn’t even in contention. The shake up being due to Crittenden and Everett actually showing up and Houston actually writing in. Fillmore jumped in hoping that the division in the Democrats could finally get him back to the office he had never been allowed to fight to hold on to. And of course the Elder Lee was never even involved in the politics of 1860.

[9] Sorry folks its all IOTL, Southern Craziness doesn’t really open up much room in the Republican field, being as all the candidates basically cover factions in the party rather well, and things had been lined up in this way roughly for some time before Harpers Ferry.

[10] All IOTL again, but a word on David Davis who is an interesting figure, his support for such a platform was because the man didn’t really mind Slavery at all, and his Republican Loyalty was entirely due to his friendship with Lincoln. He would be later appointed to the Supreme Court by Lincoln, before resigning the bench, and becoming an Independent Senator from Illinois, but unfortunately in later life his distaste for black rights would not go away, he would join the Liberal Republicans who wanted to end Reconstruction in 1868, and while gaining the support of Proto-Socialist Labor Parties would generally follow the Pre-New Departure Democratic line for government policy. A rather depressing end for such an intelligent and wise mind.

[11] I’m clearly not being remotely creative here. Sorry for folks who wanted crazy Yankees.

[12] Ok maybe I’ll add at least a little crazy to the Lincoln Cabinet.

[13] Admittedly Banks was not a hardcore Know-Nothing, he was too savvy to lose the Irish Boston vote completely, and thus walked a fine line, working to secure other endorsements any time he played with the American Party, and delivered very little to them. It’s still not something that can be anything other than a black mark on his record of course.

[14] This one is rather shocking, Douglas’ stance on Dread Scott is a lesson in hedging, the Freeport Doctrine he established said that yes Slavery could be open in a territory, but if the citizens of the state didn’t want to have that institution in the state, all they had to do was establish a Slave Code that made it too hard for Slaves to be brought into the territory. In its own way it’s a continuation of his Popular Sovereignty Doctrine. There is though, serious debate over the question of if Douglas continued to support this in the 1860 race, here with things more radicalized, I’m willing to have the man change his stance, and openly call for Dread Scott to be overturned. After all, look how much Lincoln Changed his views in his life.

[15] The withdrawal from public life having IOTL been temporary as well, Sickles had walked away from such due to the controversies and problems that had arisen form his Murder of Phillip Barton Key II, the US Attorney for the District of Colombia. The real public outcry had developed when after his acquittal on the grounds of Temporary Inanity he had reconciled with his wife, whom had been carrying on an affair with Key (Which is of course why he committed the murder in the first place). Sickles was a loyal Tammany man with an impressive ability to woe a crowd, thus his return at this critical juncture.

[16] O’Conor was a member of that odd breed, of Northern, States-Rights Democrats, and on top of that he was a New York City Democrat who was the son of Immigrants and opposed Tammany Hall. Before anyone starts thinking too well of him though, its worth mentioning that he can be classified as a hard core Doughface, and one of those Irish Politicians who attacked African-Americans to secure the Irish position of, poor but slightly less poor then they are. He was also the 1872 Strait-Out Democratic Candidate for President when the party endorsed the Liberal Republicans.

[17] At the Baltimore Democratic Convention after the Southern Walkout there were 190 voting delegates, that, plus a few extra here gives us 200 for the sake of discussion, with the remaining gap being based on walkouts.

[18] Basically Democrats who would be supporting the Crittenden Compromise plan of 1861.

[19] IOTL, Soon to become Secretary of State for Buchanan’s final days in office, and Buchanan’s failed Supreme Court Nominee, before leaving Government and becoming a prominent Anti-Lincoln, then Anti-Reconstruction Democrat, he would be an ally of President Andrew Johnson, and almost got that Strait-Out Democratic Nomination in 1872 that O’Conor won.

[20] The Once and future mayor of New York that was a Tammany Ally, but whom ran his own separate political machine. Most notable for supporting the Secession of New York City in 1861 hoping to establish a Free City that would trade with the South, North, and Europe.

[21] Swann is a former Know-Nothing who joined the Democrats (Those guys got around), and at the time was Mayor of Baltimore, he was a Big Internal Improvements guy, but soft on the Slavery question, which would cause him trouble as a Wartime Unionist, as Maryland’s Republicans became dominated by Radicals while he was Governor.

[22] The Tennessee Delegation here being representatives of Andrew Johnson. IOTL Johnson was always an oddball in the Southern Democrats, and actually made moves to run for the Party nomination in 1860, when it became clear a break would happen he dropped out. Here he will have most likely endorsed Cobb but hedged his own bets by sending a delegation to New York, hoping to maneuver himself into a more powerful position, but I assume his representatives would have second thoughts when they see what was happening at Tammany, considering his IOTL actions, I doubt he would mind.

[23] This is my way of saying the War Democrats/Future National Unionists before the War even starts. Dix is a Barnburner/Free Soil figure in New York who was IOTL considered as a possible VP for Lincoln in 1864, he was also the first Major General of Volunteers in the Union Army during the war, though not as prominent a figure as other such men who held the rank, He was too old for Field Command but did the Republic a great service in securing the Dix-Hill Cartel which set up the system for PoW exchange.

[24] A break from real history, where the three parties united in New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania to run a Fusion Anti-Republican ticket, which pledged to give any electoral votes it won to the candidate who could win with them. Forced cooperation between factions that hate each other won’t be on the cards here, especially with the Northern Machines firmly behind Douglas.
 
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What a mess. North American politics at this time is clearly skewered.

Anyway. Banks as Republican VP. Interesting choice. And Houston as Constitutional Union Presidential candidate. That would probably give them a better fighting chance, maybe. It will certainly be interesting what the election shall turn out like.
I don't know why but i can imagine a Houston presidency.
 
I will admit that I had only really thought that up to as far as Dathi had written, kudos to Evan for filling the rest of that out. Also appreciate both of you being interested.
Thanks.:)

The new happenings seem interesting. It sounds like the Constitutional Union party has more support, and the Northern Democratic party is more firmly Northern. I hope for their sake that someone will win a decisive majority... but wouldn't it be so very interesting if all the electors had to privately decide whether to break faith and save or doom the Union? And then it headed to Congress anyway?

Really, everything is wide open now. At the least, Cobb is going to lose Texas, and it might not even secede.
 
Really, everything is wide open now. At the least, Cobb is going to lose Texas, and it might not even secede.

I do sincerely hope he looses Texas, and that Houston's possible greater influence can keep Texas from seceding, or at least all the way.

And with Thomas in command of the 2nd Cav, Texas unionist have another ally on there side.
 

Japhy

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The new happenings seem interesting. It sounds like the Constitutional Union party has more support, and the Northern Democratic party is more firmly Northern. I hope for their sake that someone will win a decisive majority... but wouldn't it be so very interesting if all the electors had to privately decide whether to break faith and save or doom the Union? And then it headed to Congress anyway?

Really, everything is wide open now. At the least, Cobb is going to lose Texas, and it might not even secede.

As interesting as the Electoral College serving as a failsafe is, I can assure you thats not an option I'm taking in this Timeline. And I wouldn't say the Constitutional Union Party has much more support, IOTL they only won the states they did because of the Breckenridge-Douglas split after all, and if one looks on a County-by-County basis, they won a surprising amount across the "Solid" South, Houston can't increase that just by being Sam Houston, there will need to be more. That said, Cobb and the more radical message of the Official Democratic Party line can be alienating people just as much as increased Southern Radicalism is gaining them support, but don't worry, I'm not going to spend forever covering the election, the answers will be forthcoming.


I do sincerely hope he looses Texas, and that Houston's possible greater influence can keep Texas from seceding, or at least all the way.

And with Thomas in command of the 2nd Cav, Texas unionist have another ally on there side.

Voting Constitutional Union didn't stop Virginia or Tennessee from leaving the Union, or for that matter, did its high results elsewhere in the south slow things down.

At the same time, don't start obsessing over Thomas, he IOTL was basically commanding the unit anyway at this point. And anyway, its just one *Highly Southern-raised* Regiment, 20% of the Union Army is in Texas. I'm a big fan of the Rock but I can't imagine what you think he's going to be capable of doing after Election Day.

Not to give anything away that is...
 
Houston was a big deal in Texas. Unfortunately in otl, he was kinda like a big deal from awhile ago, and he couldnt swing as much influence as he had in the past. Im hoping this rejuvenates him in the hearts of his fellow Texans.

I can still see Texas seceding, but with a stronger unionist presence. Things may resemble Missouri. Thats my perception anyway.
 

Japhy

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Houston was a big deal in Texas. Unfortunately in otl, he was kinda like a big deal from awhile ago, and he couldnt swing as much influence as he had in the past. Im hoping this rejuvenates him in the hearts of his fellow Texans.

I can still see Texas seceding, but with a stronger unionist presence. Things may resemble Missouri. Thats my perception anyway.

But again, Bell didn't stop Tennessee or Virginia and half the folks in Kentucky from splitting from the Union, a CU win in Texas isn't going to be enough to completely transform Texas into a border state. Even if Houston wins the state. IOTL he was elected Governor in 1860 which should mean he had a large base of support in the state for his views, even then his term ended with him being forced out by bayonets supplied by Twiggs to militias, and after that Coup Texas was united and one of the first ones out of the Union.
 
True. On the other hand a chunk of Virginia broke away, and east Tenn. could have as well if Buell had followed orders.


Of course like you said Twiggs handed out bayonets to overthrow Houston, and he wont be around now...:)
 
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