Averting or Postponing the Chinese Revolution of 1911 with post-1901 PoD

How plausible would it be to either completely avert or at least significantly postpone (by no less than 10 years) the Chinese Revolution of 1911 and the fall of Qing dynasty if the point of divergence can be no later than the end of the Boxer Rebellion?

Would this require the New Policies to be more radical?

Also what would be possible effects of continuous existence of Qing post-1911 when it comes to international events?
 
How plausible would it be to either completely avert or at least significantly postpone (by no less than 10 years) the Chinese Revolution of 1911 and the fall of Qing dynasty if the point of divergence can be no later than the end of the Boxer Rebellion?

Would this require the New Policies to be more radical?

Also what would be possible effects of continuous existence of Qing post-1911 when it comes to international events?
If you remove the 1910 rubber stock market crisis, then the railroad nationalisation that created unrest in 1911 is prevented. The problem is preventing the next crisis - even if everything goes right for eight years, the end of World War One and the Treaty of Versailles will still probably trigger the May Fourth movement and bring down the government. Averting that requires a much stronger and more capable Qing than you can get from a 1901 POD, a Qing able to seize German concessions and prevent Japan from making extreme demands of China. Averting the Boxer Protocols might have helped give Qing the money and time to rebuild but that would mean avoiding the 1900 Siege of the International Legations which is before the POD.

Radical new policies in the 1900s would likely hurt more than it helps, as the ruling elite can only take so much progressivism in policy. If you introduce land reform, you turn the landlords against you. If you crack down on corruption too quickly, the loss of income will cripple your bureaucrats. If you strengthen the military, you're strengthening a potential rival (cough Yuan Shihkai). So more radical policies would be potentially counterproductive by reducing state capacity. You need moderate reform to keep the Qing in place, reform enough to keep the people happy but slowly enough that you don't create enemies.

I think the most viable way to save the Qing is an extremely limited revolution or coup. For example, if Yuan Shihkai seized power but keeps Puyi as emperor while ruling through the Grand Council, or if the Xinhai revolutionaries rose up but were massacred and the government spent the next decade developing the country. Something that destroys or coopts some of the revolutionary leaders and buys time for slow reform while keeping the Beiyang army aligned with the Palace could keep the Qing alive for another century. Even then getting them past 1919 is difficult, but not impossible.

Assuming it all goes well, the consequences of a (more) stable Qing aligned with the Franco-British-American alliance is huge. China's wolframite deposits alone could be a great source of income on the global market, and Entente interest in propping up a major market like China could be fully taken advantage of. Germany would still look to turn it's military-industrial surplus to the Chinese market as well. Such a China is also likely far more anti-Soviet than even Chiang (who had ties to Moscow before the 1927 massacre of leftists and seizure of soviet concessions). With China both more stable and more hostile to the Soviets, the Japanese invasion (designed to secure north China against growing Soviet power) is potentially averted in favour of a traditional sphere of influence. Even if Japan does still attack , the Qing could perform much better if they avoid the chaos of the 1910s and early 1920s. None of it going right is inevitable of course, but this is assuming a Qing that manages to survive through clever politics and a steady development of government and market capabilities. The Qing would almost certainly be at least casual supporters of the Allies though and stand a chance at getting the UN Security Council Seat like OTL.

A reformed Qing would still have huge problems though. Anti-Manchu tension would persist as a major weakness, and take at least a generation to unravel. The revolutionaries of OTL massacred many Manchu "inner cities" across the country, and Manchu privilege would have to go as quickly as possible to save the government. The country would continue to suffer corruption, warlordism, and revolutionaries for at least as long as OTL China did. Industrialisation would never hit the breakneck speed of the communists, while regional and even national famines could persist later than OTL without radical ROC or PRC land reform . As social consciousness is exposed to democratic western allies, the embarrassing personal conduct of Puyi and other members of the royal family would risk bringing the monarchy into disrepute. The ultimate shape of government is by no means guaranteed to be democratic or fair to ethnic minorities or supportive of women's rights. So keeping it together would remain a constant challenge and politics may look not all that dissimilar to infighting of OTL China.

During the Cold War China would lean towards America during the Cold War while also supporting fellow reformist-but-corrupt monarchies like the Pahlavis of Iran, Chakri of Thailand, and the Malay Sultans. Relations with India would almost certainly still be complicated by border disputes and the Soviet relationship, but without the expulsion of the Dalai Lama tensions might never reach the levels of 1962. Sino-Russian relations are on the one hand lacking in brotherly familiarity like OTL, but on the other hand there's no Mao pushing to usurp global communist leadership. Soviet influence in Xinjiang is limited once world war two starts, and Mongolia remains part of China. Korea would be an ally and the battle for influence would keep Sino-Japanese relations testy. Once the Soviets collapse the Qing would seek to make inroads in Central Asia. If 9/11 still occurs the Qing try to have at least some presence in Afghanistan. Relations with the west would warm with time due to economic integration, but eventually China's rise would lead to economic tensions - however with no Taiwan issue, Maoist movement, and a more entrenched Chinese navy in the South China Sea the thought of war with China is considered crackpot.

A surviving Qing likely avoids both the great tragedies and great successes alike. Assuming they can keep the country stable and developing, its raw size and population almost certainly guarantees it a spot in the top 5 economies of the modern day. The military would be comparable to pre-Erdogan Turkey, an institution with far more latitude than western democracies. The legislature evolves through delegation of power, similar to Britain, rather than through constitutional powers. The monarchy would perhaps trend towards ceremonial, depending on how Puyi's successor turns out. The economy would suffer from even worse inequality than OTL China, but might - might - be more developed as a whole.

Reputation-wise Qing revisionism is reversed. The government would promote itself heavily and enforce lese majeste laws, but criticism would persist and in time criticism of the monarchy is entrenched. There’s a persistent identity crisis of how this archaic regime has survived that only grows as the new millennium approaches. Republicanism is far stronger than in Japan. To counteract this the government promotes state religions like the Confucian Church and Tibetan Buddhism. While minorities might or might not suffer disadvantages the traditional approach of identifying the House of Aisin-Gioro as an institution with local elite structures - a chakravarti in Tibet, a Steppe Prince in Mongolia - continues and there is at least some overtures to autonomy
 
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If you remove the 1910 rubber stock market crisis, then the railroad nationalisation that created unrest in 1911 is prevented. The problem is preventing the next crisis - even if everything goes right for eight years, the end of World War One and the Treaty of Versailles will still probably trigger the May Fourth movement and bring down the government. Averting that requires a much stronger and more capable Qing than you can get from a 1901 POD, a Qing able to seize German concessions and prevent Japan from making extreme demands of China. Averting the Boxer Protocols might have helped give Qing the money and time to rebuild but that would mean avoiding the 1900 Siege of the International Legations which is before the POD.

Radical new policies in the 1900s would likely hurt more than it helps, as the ruling elite can only take so much progressivism in policy. If you introduce land reform, you turn the landlords against you. If you crack down on corruption too quickly, the loss of income will cripple your bureaucrats. If you strengthen the military, you're strengthening a potential rival (cough Yuan Shihkai). So more radical policies would be potentially counterproductive by reducing state capacity. You need moderate reform to keep the Qing in place, reform enough to keep the people happy but slowly enough that you don't create enemies.

I think the most viable way to save the Qing is an extremely limited revolution or coup. For example, if Yuan Shihkai seized power but keeps Puyi as emperor while ruling through the Grand Council, or if the Xinhai revolutionaries rose up but were massacred and the government spent the next decade developing the country. Something that destroys or coopts some of the revolutionary leaders and buys time for slow reform while keeping the Beiyang army aligned with the Palace could keep the Qing alive for another century. Even then getting them past 1919 is difficult, but not impossible.

Assuming it all goes well, the consequences of a (more) stable Qing aligned with the Franco-British-American alliance is huge. China's wolframite deposits alone could be a great source of income on the global market, and Entente interest in propping up a major market like China could be fully taken advantage of. Germany would still look to turn it's military-industrial surplus to the Chinese market as well. Such a China is also likely far more anti-Soviet than even Chiang (who had ties to Moscow before the 1927 massacre of leftists and seizure of soviet concessions). With China both more stable and more hostile to the Soviets, the Japanese invasion (designed to secure north China against growing Soviet power) is potentially averted in favour of a traditional sphere of influence. Even if Japan does still attack , the Qing could perform much better if they avoid the chaos of the 1910s and early 1920s. None of it going right is inevitable of course, but this is assuming a Qing that manages to survive through clever politics and a steady development of government and market capabilities. The Qing would almost certainly be at least casual supporters of the Allies though and stand a chance at getting the UN Security Council Seat like OTL.

A reformed Qing would still have huge problems though. Anti-Manchu tension would persist as a major weakness, and take at least a generation to unravel. The revolutionaries of OTL massacred many Manchu "inner cities" across the country, and Manchu privilege would have to go as quickly as possible to save the government. The country would continue to suffer corruption, warlordism, and revolutionaries for at least as long as OTL China did. Industrialisation would never hit the breakneck speed of the communists, while regional and even national famines could persist later than OTL without radical ROC or PRC land reform . As social consciousness is exposed to democratic western allies, the embarrassing personal conduct of Puyi and other members of the royal family would risk bringing the monarchy into disrepute. The ultimate shape of government is by no means guaranteed to be democratic or fair to ethnic minorities or supportive of women's rights. So keeping it together would remain a constant challenge and politics may look not all that dissimilar to infighting of OTL China.

During the Cold War China would lean towards America during the Cold War while also supporting fellow reformist-but-corrupt monarchies like the Pahlavis of Iran, Chakri of Thailand, and the Malay Sultans. Relations with India would almost certainly still be complicated by border disputes and the Soviet relationship, but without the expulsion of the Dalai Lama tensions might never reach the levels of 1962. Sino-Russian relations are on the one hand lacking in brotherly familiarity like OTL, but on the other hand there's no Mao pushing to usurp global communist leadership. Soviet influence in Xinjiang is limited once world war two starts, and Mongolia remains part of China. Korea would be an ally and the battle for influence would keep Sino-Japanese relations testy. Once the Soviets collapse the Qing would seek to make inroads in Central Asia. If 9/11 still occurs the Qing try to have at least some presence in Afghanistan. Relations with the west would warm with time due to economic integration, but eventually China's rise would lead to economic tensions - however with no Taiwan issue, Maoist movement, and a more entrenched Chinese navy in the South China Sea the thought of war with China is considered crackpot.

A surviving Qing likely avoids both the great tragedies and great successes alike. Assuming they can keep the country stable and developing, its raw size and population almost certainly guarantees it a spot in the top 5 economies of the modern day. The military would be comparable to pre-Erdogan Turkey, an institution with far more latitude than western democracies. The legislature evolves through delegation of power, similar to Britain, rather than through constitutional powers. The monarchy would perhaps trend towards ceremonial, depending on how Puyi's successor turns out. The economy would suffer from even worse inequality than OTL China, but might - might - be more developed as a whole.
Very comprehensive answer but you assume to much pararelism with OTL history. I don't think that with a PoD in 1900s even creation of the Soviet Union is certain let alone WW2 or the Cold War.

Regarding Qing's involvement in the Great War I do wonder if it being more stable than OTL 1910s China (not a high bar to reach) could mean it being more involved in the war than RoC under the Beiyang government was.
On the other hand they could possibly try to stay neutral to not disrupt the fragile internal situation.
 
Very comprehensive answer but you assume to much pararelism with OTL history. I don't think that with a PoD in 1900s even creation of the Soviet Union is certain let alone WW2 or the Cold War.

Regarding Qing's involvement in the Great War I do wonder if it being more stable than OTL 1910s China (not a high bar to reach) could mean it being more involved in the war than RoC under the Beiyang government was.
On the other hand they could possibly try to stay neutral to not disrupt the fragile internal situation.
How would a surviving and weak Qing prevent the Russian revolution? They don’t have the resources for foreign adventure. China was not deciding the great power competitions before rhe 1940s

The main issue is lack of capacity. Even a surviving Qing would have rebellions to put down and none of the ships to send them west. They could try taking part in the assault on Qingdao but it would take a serious divergence beyond the realm of plausibility for them to be a) capable and b) for Japan to let them. The Qing were simply too dependant on the support of the countries who would become the entente
 
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How would a surviving and weak Qing prevent the Russian revolution? They don’t have the resources for foreign adventure. China was not deciding the great power competitions before rhe 1940s
No country exists in vacuum and different political and economic situation in China will ultimately influence the situation in other countries even if indirectly.
 
Delaying the revolution would be relatively easy, averting it would be near impossible IMO, as that would require actually treating the disease rather than just the symptoms. The Qing government at that time is really in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. The New Policies reform was a reaction to the growing crisis of legitimacy(its humiliating incompetence and the elites' complete lack of confidence in it), but the process of reform revealed and amplified the deep structural problems of the Qing regime and its inability to bring meaningful reforms fast enough that it greatly accelerated Qing's demise.

The Constitutionalists are the single most influential political movement in Chinese society at that time(not the revolutionary), made up of (mostly Han)merchants, intellectuals, progressive bureaucrats and enlightened landed elites. Their rising status in societal and economic influence was already established and now they want the corresponding political power. Till now they refused the call of fringe revolutionaries because the belief that such power could be obtained through reform without bloodshed. However, as soon as constitutionalists became disillusioned with Qing‘s reform, they joined force with the revolutionaries and the condition for revolution is set(only requiring some crisis to set it off). This is exactly what happened with the appointment of Manchu Cabinet by Qing in May 1911, which convinced a lot of constitutionalists that Qing’s reform promise is not genuine, that real power will still be concentrated within Manchu elite and imperial dynasty instead of being shared with the Han.
Here the ethnic problem of Qing regime comes in: They are a dynasty of Manchu conquerors. Nationalist anti-Manchu sentiment among Han Chinese was never truly quelled and now stronger than ever. Although the status of Han elite rose significantly since the Taiping war and Han governors had become prevalent, the central government still remained Manchu-dominated(and become more and more dominated in the years leading to the revolution). It didn't help that many Manchu Princes in control of the imperial government did see constitutional reform as an opportunity to regain control and institutionalize it.

Now about this and that crises which led to the revolution: the huge expense required by reform caused an ever-widening fiscal crisis. Imperial government's deficit rose sharply from 30m liangs in 1903 to 80m in 1911 despite numerous measures to balance budget. These measures include:
1) Increase taxes by a sharp degree. This greatly heightened social unrest in the leading up years to the revolution.
2) Borrow from foreign creditors, which comes with all kinds of collaterals and concessions meaning further loss in China's national sovereignty, hence further draining the legitimacy of the regime in the eyes of nationalist elites.
3) Strengthen central fiscal capacity in expense of the regional ones. In early 1900s, the central government's loss of control over provincial governors is already a fact. To revert this trend means even more tension within the political system, and these clash of interest is bound to create crisis. Indeed, the 1911 Railroad Protection Crisis that led directly to revolution is the result of central government trampling the interest of (corrupt) provincial elites.

So in the benefit of hindsight, what Qing govt should do to navigate this political minefield seems to be:
1) Speed up the political reforms, make more concession to satisfy or at least divide the constitutionalists, and don't do the stupid Manchu cabinet thing (at very least maintain a parity of Manchu and Han ministers in your first cabinet).
2) Scale back the pace of other, most expensive aspects of the reform, mainly military, to remedy the fiscal crisis.
However, in order to reach these decisions, the Qing regime has to be lead by level-headed, strong, unified minds willing to think in long-term, unfortunately the men controlling Qing court during these crucial years are anything but. First the strong, experienced leaders of the late 19th century were leaving the scene: Cixi passed away in 1908, Zhang Zhidong in 1909, Yuan Shikai forced into retirement. Power fell into the hands of a group of divided, relatively young and inexperienced Manchu Princes, led by people like Zaifeng and Yikuang.
 
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Alright, so let's discuss a scenario in which Yuan Shikai orchestrates a palace coup some time in mid to late 1900s, removes the more obstructionist Manchu ministers and forms a government with parity between Manchu and Han.

1) Why would he do it? I won't claim I know a whole lot about the man but from little that I do know he strikes me more as someone mostly caring about him self and not much of an idealist.
2) How likely is for this to trigger violent opposition from traditionalist elites within the country? If it does what scale are we talking? Minor incidents or full blown civil war?
3) How to prevent Yuan's government from turning into a militarist regime?
 
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Would the death of Sun Yat Sen circa 1901-1902 from whatever cause throw a wrench into the Revolution's works?
 
Alright, so let's discuss a scenario in which Yuan Shikai orchestrates a palace coup some time in mid to late 1900s, removes the more obstructionist Manchu ministers and forms a government with parity between Manchu and Han.

1) Why would he do it?
it's a possibility, and the motive would be desperate self-preservation. At the time of Cixi's death in 1908, Yuan had been seen as the No.1 threat by the newly-ascendant Manchu Princes faction led by Regent Zaifeng. We knew Zaifeng plotted Yuan's imprisonment and even death in the immediate aftermath of Cixi's death. It took Yikuang(Yuan's ally among the Manchu Princes), Zhang Zhidong and foreign ambassadors' influence to change the plan into a forced retirement. So if faced with real danger of imprisonment and execution, it's not hard to imagine Yuan Shikai would mobilize his old subordinates to attempt a coup as desperate last-resort. He would also likely try to enlist Yikuang as ally to divide the Manchu Princes.
Should he succeed, it would certainly result in an increase of Han ministers, as it means the removal of Yuan's rivals and promotion of his follower (Beiyang politicians like Tang Shaoyi, Xu Shichang, Zhao Bingjun, etc) into some of the top posts. Yuan could then realize the plan of "responsible cabinet" he advocated since 1906, making Yikuang a figurehead Prime Minister, with real power vested in himself as the Vice PM.
2) How likely is for this to trigger violent opposition from traditionalist elites within the country? If it does what scale are we talking? Minor incidents or full blown civil war?
The princes and their followers would no doubt want to fight back, how much force they can muster is doubtful, as we know their actual control over the New Armies was almost non-existent in 1911. The only division they have relatively good influence over is the 1st Zhen, which had a high ratio of Manchu/Banner officers. The 2nd-6th Zhens form the basis of Yuan's Beiyang clique. Other major elements within the modernized military are Zhang Zhidong's Hubei Clique (8th Zhen and 21st mixed Xie, about one and a half division) and Nanjing's 9th Zhen, both had strong constitutionalist/revolutionary influence in it.
So, IMO the stability of the post-coup regime depends on Yuan's ability to 1) placate the Governors(especially the Zhang Zhidong faction) 2) negotiate a reconciliation with the Constitutionalists. Don't forget that he's still bitter personal enemy of the leaders of Constitutionalist Movement for his back-stabbing that doomed the 1898 reform attempt, IOTL the majority of constitutionalist press cheered for Yuan's removal in 1909. A promise to convoke Parliament within a few years and the immediate formation of a “responsible cabinet” as explained above could win a good portion of constitutionalists to his side, at least for a few years.
3) How to prevent Yuan's government from turning into a militarist regime?
I don't think you can. This core pillar of this Yuan regime would undoubtedly be the Beiyang military, and his dictatorial tendency is well known (In his constitutional reform plan he described the core concept as “With the name of a Constitutional Monarchy but none of its nature”). The counter-balancing force of Zhang Zhidong would soon passes away in 1909. I imagine after the Parliament is finally opened there will be escalating confrontation between it(controlled by Constitutionalists) and the government due to Yuan's unwillingness to share power, the cooperation would not last. And with Yuan in charge, the huge expense into military modernization wouldn't change, it might even increase to satisfy his clique. So the fiscal crisis would continue and cause various crises ITTL as well. In short, it will eventually turn into something like OTL Beiyang China but with a figurehead monarchy, the revolution can be delayed but still happen, but this time the regime with a strong military backing could have a real chance to put it down(even tho it will almost certainly be brought to the brink of bankruptcy in doing so).
 
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The imprisoned emperor Guangxu died in 1908, literally a day before Cixi's own death. Analysis of his body in the 21st century revealed that he had arsenic levels 2,000 times the normal level in his body, likely administered in a one-time dose by Cixi loyalists in order to prevent him from reversing her changes to the Chinese system. Assuming Guangxu manages to avoid his poisoning, his return to rule could definitely butterfly the sequence of events leading up to the Xinhai revolution.

But averting it? 'Tis another story entirely.
 
So returning to this discussion:
If Guangxu Emperor survived the assassination attempt in 1908 would he be able to use this as a pretext for purging the more conservative forces within Qing government?

Would he still require Yuan's support for that?
 
So returning to this discussion:
If Guangxu Emperor survived the assassination attempt in 1908 would he be able to use this as a pretext for purging the more conservative forces within Qing government?
If Guangxu somehow survived Cixi's poison(or Cixi died before she can poison Guangxu), he would be a powerless emperor under house arrest for a decade till this point, surrounded by a government full of people with absolute no desire to let him exercise any kind of real power - remember, most of them directly or indirectly took part in Cixi's 1898 coup that killed the Hundred Days Reform and stripped Guangxu of all power.
Would he still require Yuan's support for that?
We know from multiple sources that Guangxu hated Yuan with a passion during his house arrest years since Yuan was regarded as the traitor who sold out the 1898 reform. Yuan also feared possible reprisal from Guangxu and Guangxu's death alongside with Cixi was a great relief to him. So reconciliation between these two seems very unlikely, instead Yuan would probably be the man Guangxu want to get rid of the most.
Even with Cixi gone, it requires some serious politicking for Guangxu to regain political power. In order to avoid another 1898 he needs to tread carefully, contact the constitutionalist(who regarded him as an idol due to the events of 1898), court possible allies (Zhang Zhidong, Cen Chunxuan and Duanfang are the most likely ones imo), build up his faction and expand influence, and dont antagonize too many powerful actors at once. Unfortunately, Guangxu was never known as a shrewd political actor, instead he was by most accounts too radical, rash, overly idealistic and unaware of political reality. Unless the lesson of 1898 and ten years under house arrest profoundly changed and matured his character, I don't see how this would end well for him (and Qing as well).
 
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Unless the grave setbacks of 1898 and ten years under house arrest profoundly changed and matured his character, I don't see how this would end well for him (and Qing as well).
Are there any sources on his opinions in 1900s?

Also, let's say that he menages to find allies both among Constitutionalist and among some governors and court officials would he be potentially able to defeat opposition consisting of the conservative officials and Yuan Shikai?
Were there any prominent military leaders at the time who would rather side with the Emperor than with Yuan? How about Yinchang?
 
Are there any sources on his opinions in 1900s?
No much aside from hearsay, rumors and personal histories. We know Guangxu in those years read a lot (both in chinese and english) and kept his political opinions closely to himself, probably knowing that Cixi was keeping a close tab on him. His hatred of Yuan Shikai was only known from anecdotal recollections, like 《庚子西狩丛谈》 recorded that he would sometimes write down Yuan's name on paper then smash it into pieces or use it as target practice.
There are also the writings of Cixi's lady-in-waiting Der Ling(Two Years in the Forbidden City, Son of Heaven, etc), in which she claimed Guangxu privately criticized Cixi's reforms as insufficient, said he still harbors great ambition to revive China and even sent a eunuch to ask her secretly about the whereabouts of Kang Youwei. But it should be noted that Der Ling had been consistently proven to be a very unreliable narrator who tends to make things up to inflate her self-importance, so these memoirs should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
Let's say that Guangxu menages to defeat Yuan and the court conservatives by 1909.
Would he be able to negotiate with revolutionary leaders such as Sun Yat Sen?
Is there any chance for a compromise between Constitutionalists and Tongmenghui this late?
 
Let's say that Guangxu menages to defeat Yuan and the court conservatives by 1909.
Would he be able to negotiate with revolutionary leaders such as Sun Yat Sen?
Is there any chance for a compromise between Constitutionalists and Tongmenghui this late?
As to Dr Sun and the Tongmenghui - probably not, even as early as 1895 his Revive China Society's slogan was "Expel Tatar barbarians, revive Zhonghua, and establish a unified government". Other founding members of the Tongmenghui were devoted to overthrowing the Qing before a 1908 POD - examples including Huang Xing (tried to overthrow the Qing in 1905) and Zhang Bingling (changed his name to protest the Qing in 1901).

By comparison the 1900 Boxer Rebellions still had elements chanting "Revive the Qing, Expel the Barbarians", so Sun's anti-Qing sentiment was firm even before the rest of China - not fertile ground for dialogue. Incidentally, I would argue that anti-Manchu sentiment cemented itself during the complete failure of the Boxers, the crippling payments Qing incurred as a result, and in Cixi’s poor handling of the whole thing.

As to the rest of the question - even granting an improbable Guangxu palace coup against Cixi, 1908 is far after the heyday of monarchist reformers like Kang Youwei and Liang Qichao. Just a few years later, the successful1911 revolution would see massacres of Manchu nobles and their families, including children across China. The revolutionary movement was already firmly behind republicanism and its promise of modernisation, democracy, and prosperity - and frankly the level of anti-Manchu racism that had developed by this point was terrifying. I'm not sure Guangxu could do anything in 3 years to fix that diplomatically. Even assuming Guangxu overcame internal resistance to institute reforms, to the people of China it would be too little, too late.

With a POD post-Boxer, I don't believe a surviving Qing would come about through a process of negotiation and reform, but instead through the application of military force and foreign financial support, with any reforms filtered through those two interests. Such a Qing would be reliant on foreign powers and the armed forces, as well as whatever small comfortable urban elite develops.

One out there possibility for a monarch-centric 20th century Qing: instead of an unsuccessful Qing restoration in 1917, Zhang Xun bides his time and leads a successful Qing restoration in the post-Duan Qirui/Anhui Clique Warlord mess of the early 20s. This is extremely improbable because it requires the KMT, who had the broadest domestic support and received massive support from foreign countries as ideologically diverse as Soviet Russia, the USA, and Weimar-and-then-Nazi Germany, to fail. But maybe Japan goes in heavy handed to back the Qing restorationists for some bizarre reason and the KMT lose on the battlefield. If Zhang Xun still dies in 1923 there would be an interesting and early power vacuum in this newly restored Qing. In that vacuum one of the royal cousins might become a leading voice for reform, winning back the tired populace after republicanism so spectacularly failed. It's a stretch and would not be stable for decades, but it's within the realm of possibility.
 
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