Alternate Ideologies

[TRH]

There's already a thread with an extensive laundry list of more obscure OTL ideologies here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ideologies-for-your-alternate-history.410437/

 

[Born in the USSA]

"Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend!"

So, mostly because I would have really liked to have found such a thing when I first joined this site, I decided to make a list of links to timelines with their own ideologies. A few notes on the list, I'm avoiding listing ideologies that are broadly similar to real ones (for example, Revivalism is Lithuanian Nazism with tthe serial numbers filed off, in my opinion) but keeping ones with the same name as OTL if they're significantly different. Also, I'm only linking to specific posts that distill what the ideology is about (more or less). So, Fascism from What Madness is this is out because it doesn't have a distilled ideology post, but Fascism from Separated at Birth gets to stay. It goes without saying that people shouldn't go bumping dead threads but I just wanted to get the information out there. If anybody has any neat ones I've missed I'm hoping this thread can be a robust resource. Fair warning a few of them are mine, but I'm sticking to the ones I actually put serious thought in to.

1. Abelism (共存共栄 - Kyōzonkyōei - Common Peace, Common Wealth)
2. Amalgamation (Flag Thread V)
3. Anarcho-Nihilism (All About My Brother: A Taiping Rebellion Timeline)
4. Artisticism (Photos from Alternate Worlds II)
5. Beutelism (What Madness is This?)
6. Brittanianism (Let the Eagle Scream Version 2: Star-Spangled Boogaloo)
7. Caliphatism (Map Thread XX)
8. Cellularism (An Examination of Extra-Universal Systems of Government)
9. Communism (Dreams of Liberty: A Failure at Princeton)
10. Companism (Dreams of Liberty: A Failure at Princeton)
11. Communonationalism/Liberty Conservatism/&c (The New Deal Coalition Retained)
12. Concordism (Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline)
13. Confederalism (The Same Coin: Effects of a Confederalist Party on global ideological trends?)
14. Confucian Christianity (All About My Brother: A Taiping Rebellion Timeline)
15. Consortism (Legacy of the Magnanimous)
16. Coprospism (The Co-Prosperity Sphere)
17. Corporatism (The Union Forever: A TL)
18. Cosmicism ("Power Without Knowledge": President Haig and the Era of Bad Feelings)
19. Croixism (Let the Eagle Scream Version 2: Star-Spangled Boogaloo)
20. Dijonist Communism (Ad Astra Per Aspera)
21. Diversitarianism (Look to the West)
22. Ecological Conservatism (A Darker Shade of Green: A Vignette)
23. Eduism (What Madness is This?)
24. Egoism (The Star-Spangled Expanded Universe of "What Madness is This?")
25. Equalism (The Star-Spangled Expanded Universe of "What Madness Is This?")
26. Esoteric Communism (NDCR Part IV: The New Millenium)
27. Esperantism (An Examination of Extra-Universal Systems of Government)
28. Fascism (Separated at Birth: America and Drakia)
29. Fitzhughism (An Examination of Extra-Universal Systems of Government)
30. Freyism (New Deal Coalition Retained)
31. Futurist-Fascism (WI: War between Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy over Austria?)
32. Geoism (Separated at Birth: America and Drakia)
33. Honor/Respect/&c (Honor and Respect: A World of Unusual Ideologies)
34. Illuminism (What Madness is This?)
35. Japanese Communism (A Day in July: An Early 20th Century Timeline)
36. Korsgaardism (Dominion of Southern America)
37. Krulikism (The Union Forever: A TL)
38. Kulturkampf (Let the Eagle Scream!)
39. Leninism (Albion where the Sun never set)
40. Localism (All About My Brother: A Taiping Rebellion Timeline)
41. Lottocracy (Alternate Historiography)
42. Malthusianism (Dominion of Southern America)
43. Martian Guild-Feudalism (Toxic Stars: The Future of Humankind in the Cthulhu Mythos)
44. Militarized Idealism (The Roc's Nest: A Posthuman Timeline)
45. Municipalism (Alternate Wikipedia Infoboxes IV)
46. National Conservatism (Ad Astra Per Aspera)
47. National Integralism (共存共栄 - Kyōzonkyōei - Common Peace, Common Wealth)
48. National Monarchism/Fascist Royalism (The Co-Prosperity Sphere)
49. National-Socialism (All About My Brother: A Taiping Rebellion Timeline)
50. National Syncretism (AHC: Six Schools, Six Warlords; or: A Far Stranger Warlord Era?)
51. New Americanism (Let the Eagle Scream!)
52. Nietzscheanism (Let the Eagle Scream Version 2: Star-Spangled Boogaloo)
53. Oligarchal Technocracy (Ad Astra Per Aspera)
54. Paleoliberalism (No Southern Strategy)
55. Pokolenism/Concordism/&c (Fear Nothing But God: A Graphical History)
56. Proletarianism (The Unreformed Kingdom)
57. Rational Anarchism/Marxist-Trigonism/Lovecraftian Fascism (The King in Yellow and Other Stories: A President Lovecraft Timeline in Several Acts)
58. Regression ("Power Without Knowledge: President Haig and the Era of Bad Feelings)
59. Rex (Separated at Birth: America and Drakia)
60. Singularism (Alternate Wikipedia Infoboxes VI)
61. Situationism (Separated at Birth: America and Drakia)
62. Socialist Slaveocracy (An Examination of Extra-Universal Systems of Government)
63. Societism (Look to the West)
64. Societism (Separated at Birth: America and Drakia)
65. Sovereignism (An Examination of Extra-Universal Systems of Government)
66. Stalinism (Let the Eagle Scream!)
67. Systematism (The Star-Spangled Expanded Universe of "What Madness Is This?")
68. Texanism (The Star-Spangled Expanded Universe of "What Madness Is This?")
69. Trotskyism (No Spanish Civil War in 1936)
70. Unitarianism (The Silver Knight, a Lithuania Timeline)
71. Unitism (Let the Eagle Scream!)
72. Veritism (Chaos Timeline)
73. Vitalism/Spiritualism (The (Pseudo) Scientific Revolution!)

 

[Born in the USSA]

So something I've been wondering for the past couple of days: what sort of scenario could see one or more of the Chinese Six Schools (Confucianism, Legalism, Taoism, Mohism, Yin-Yang, and Logicians) mature/evolve into competitive political ideologies (in the modern sense) in the wider East Asian region and eventually beyond? Maybe a different Warlord Period at the latest, or perhaps an earlier fall of the Qing? Of course the ultimate accomplishment of such an ideology would essentially be a reverse PRC scenario, namely a western nation reorganizing along the lines of an eastern ideology. I'd say some strain of Neo-Legalism would be the most likely to achieve such a result.

So I decided to put this idea up as an AHC and gave it a week. No one bit, so I decided to give it a go myself, and I'm just about wrapped up. It's not realistic by any means but I enjoyed writing it and I hope it's at least entertaining.

 

[Višeslav]

This is a thread for Alternate Ideologies (preferably those that appeared in the mid 1800s-early 1900s, so modern/industrial ones).

The ideology could be an alternative/analogue to an existing ideology, an ideology that could have arisen at the time, an OTL ideology that could have gained more popularity/become significant in an ATL or a new ideology altogether (as long as it's realistic in context).

It could be linked to a specific TL but that is by no means necessary. You can use alternate names for OTL minor ideologies but you can't just call fascism Lacroixism and have it start in France or stuff like that.

[edit] make sure you explain where and why the Ideology is likely to become prominent (not necessarily in power, just prominent)

OTL there were 3 general directions for new ideologies:

1. Nationalist/Racist - for a certain ethno-cultural group, based of historical "glory", some kind of "purity", and devotion to the group
   1. could be totalitarian
   2. Expansionist
2. Socialist - for the working class
   
3. Anarchist - against the government

Feel free to use these broad groups as a base for your ideologies if you want.


I will post a few of my own examples when I have time.

 

[Grundal]

have some ideas for alternate ideologies.

It starts off with something like ancient chinese legalism as a basis.

Then combine it with the idea that doing nothing to solve a problem/crime is equally as bad as actually committing the crime, therefore you must act. After all, if you aren't a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem. Furthermore, not acting is a form of restraining action. Additionally, acting sooner is of course better than acting later, and therefore, delayed action against a problem and/or crime is a form of restraining action and is thus as bad as the crime. On top of that, not acting at all is better than going at it with half-measures, therefore you must act with full measures that will solve problems in their entirity.

As time goes, a new man brings a new group of hardliners to the forefront. They bring a new interpretation that their fellows embrace. Moderate responses are a form of half measure.

Now you have a system where any response to any situation less than immediately reacting in the most extreme possible manner is punished immediately by the full force of the law in the most extreme possible manner, so as to force every individual and society as a whole to respond to any problem immediately in the most extreme possible manner. So as to encourage moral and virtuous behavior and compliance with the state and its ideology of Legalist Extremism.


My next idea is a development out of prehistoric beliefs. specifically of a group that existed alongside the first civilizations developing, hard-pressed to survive. eventually, the hunter gatherer ways are lost....and some animist beliefs become twisted.

The people worships nature, and views nature as hierarchical, based specifically on who eats whom. People are people, and this is represented by their palce in the food chain.

However, their xenophobia twists this further. They have maintained cannibalism, and view those who reject cannibalism as naturally lower on the food chain, and thus are not actually human. This is a society in which personhood is determined by your willingness to eat other people. canabilist humanism; one's humanity depending one's willingness to predate on their fellow man.



here is another one; Extremis Homeostasis.

The idea is a odd variant of the idea of finding balance...rather than finding a golden middle, you discover what that is by finding one end of the spectrum...and the seek the other opposite end. This is if further developed into the idea that in society balance is achieved by nurturing and developing every possible opposite extreme--the idea being that these groups naturally act like magnets against each other and keep each other in line. Those who seek out the various opposite ends of the spectrum of beliefs and culture and customs and etc. are seen as the ones as natural mediators and tie-breakers of society due to their greater experience of the whole spectrum, and thus can guide society out of situations that might otherwise be impossible to address.



Here is another alternate ideology.

It comes with someone in ancient history realizing something akin to the scientific method and the idea of using logic to analyze the world and comes to conclude there was no evidence for deities or the supernatural. This great thinker came about in a society torn apart by strife, with distrust in the old ways and institutions become rampant. He develops first the idea of moral relativism....and then he concludes the logical end point of such thought was absolute moral nihilism. he invents the idea of the ubermensch.

Another thinker realizes nature shapes animals in a manner similar to how man breeds animals and hypothesizes man could shape man over generations for a desired purpose.

A new tyrant comes to power out of the chaos, equivalent to the first emperor of china. He merges the idea of the ubermensch with the idea of man shaping man to a new purpose into a new ideology....that all human philosophy and morality and religion is flawed for there are always hypocrisies, ironies, and contradictions, and question that can easily be resolves. He establishes the new state ideology: that the ubermensch rules the state and thus embodies all morality for all under him, taking the place of the gods as the absolute determiner of right and wrong, good and evil. And the Ubermensch of the state and his heirs will breed all those he rules into a new form where the new race of man perfectly matches their own ideology, thus finally achieving a "True morality."

So yeah, a moral relativist ideology combined with an ancient version of state directed transhumanism to make an ideology and a species that fit together without contradictions, thus achieving what they deem to be true moral superiority over those other powers who choose to stay conventionally human.

 

[Miguel Lanius]

I wonder if we could have a "Pan-Latinism", which is all about unifying Latin peoples in general - Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, French, Romanian, etc. Probably venerates the Roman Empire a lot.

Pan-Lusitanism seems like a potential thing as well. I think what stopped it is the Anti-Lusitanic stream that ran on Brazilian Thought for a good while and still exists today.

Militant Globalism. The world MUST be unified, by pen or sword, whatever the cost, because that's the only way it can be at peace! Closest things are the current Globalist ideology, and Societism from Look to the West, but Societism has its own quite peculiar characteristics.

A "continuation" of Feudalism, in which the King has more power, but overall the nobles are pretty free. Kind of a "Aristocratic Federalism", so to say.

In a world with more advanced genetics technology, an "Eugenic Aristocratic" ideology, where the Upper Castes are made of the "Genetically Superior", while the lower ones are made of the "genetically inferior".

Gnostic methods applied to politics? Politics and information are kept as secret as possible, but in exchange, the ruling class must provide its ruled with all the prosperity and conforts it can.

 

[CountPeter]

Might I recommend we get some Threadmarks?

the ideology below is one that, if I ever had the time, I would love to make into it’s own thing, but it essentially exists as a “third way” between Romanticism and the Enlightenment. Just to be clear, below isn’t my views on the military (I am a pacifist), but a generalisation of a trend counter to the other two dominant movements.

Martialism

This ideology starts in an AH Cromwellian England where the Major Generals are more popular. Over time, a distinct ideological trend in the Anglo sphere comes into dominance, which essentially rationalises the military as the ideal over the state, nation etc. This isn’t in the same sense as militarism say, for Prussia (which was a distinctly romantic militarism), or for Bolivarian regimes (which was a distinctly enlightenment militarism), nor is it the belief in military rule as a temporary state of order.

Martialism views the nation state and the kingdom (in most cases) as a political fiction, believing that political power is only meaningful in relation to the ability to enforce it and that it is a military which solely defines and/or uplifts a person in meaningful terms and thus is the most important arbiter for rights. Citizenship is most deserving for those who enable the rights of citizens (the military), Conscription is seen as empowering and a martial lifestyle is the most virtuous because of it being the only one where an individual acts to uphold morality in real terms.

in short, think Agrarianism but with an emphasis on power (as opposed to tradition or liberty) as the ideal and with the soldier in place of the farmer.

Forms of Martialism

Democratic: A democratic martialism could rely on something similar to that of Starship Troopers, or be akin to a Jeffersonian democracy. Voting isn’t about the structure of society, but is instead for the establishment of military judges/tribunals who represent the citizens wishes in a senatorial fashion.

Oligarchy: Everyone is a conscript in some fashion, even if they work in the private sector (presuming there is a private sector) on the justification that mass conscription ensures responsible power to the citizenry who can rise to any heights.

 

[Miranda Brawner]

Some silly ideas I've been thinking about, some more plausible than others:

• Illegalocracy: A government by and for the criminals! Yes, I know what you're thinking: Doesn't this describe pretty much every government ever? Yes, but Illegalocracy would take things in a more... non-traditional direction. The Illegalocrats believe that law and government are inherently evil, and therefore, anything that is illegal or treasonous is good. They managed to get into power largely because everyone assumed they were speaking metaphorically. They weren't. In order to avoid contradicting their own ideology once they got into power, they set up a puppet government to take the blame for everything. It goes like this: If the Illegalocrats want to encourage a certain behavior, they will tell discreetly tell the puppet government to ban that behavior. Then the people, in defiance of their puppet government, will do the behavior more than ever, just to stick it to the Man. Meanwhile, the Illegalocrats sit in the background cackling maniacally and getting high. At least, that's how it's supposed to work. It's one of the few countries where the ruling party is also a banned party, because for something to be good, it must be illegal. Needless to say, relations between the Illegalocracy and its neighbors are... interesting.
• Senocracy: The government is composed of the oldest people in the country. Cue a surge in the fake-birth-certificate industry.
• Infantocracy: Officeholders must be 11 years old or younger. And that refers to their actual chronological age, not their maturity level.
• Old Europeanism: A regime somewhere in Europe latches onto the idea that the Indo-European languages are inherently evil and must be stamped out. Everyone is forced to learn a fabricated rediscovered language from the allegedly utopian time before the arrival of those wacky steppe nomads from Ukraine. Has heavy "noble savage" overtones.
• Obfuscatarianism: What the unlenlightened masses call "incoherent babbling" is actually the highest form of wisdom! Demonstration majority tape usually purchase refuse disagree other propose, face? Dozen careful. Heel, fifteen strategy property, armed noise wealth standard interpretation actor, busy. (These words were chosen by a pseudorandom number generator ṯ̈́̽ͅḣe̲̦̥ ̄in̬̪s͇̙cr̯ͫǖ͒t̳̥͚͆̏͑ã̭̜̩̔̅bͅl̈̉̓e͓̘ͤͣ ͈ͨwǐl̥̻̦l̙̝ ͚̪̜̊̄͆o͈͆f ̖͙͔th̺̜͊ͪẻ̈ ̭̔̆ͅC̦osm̊ͦͤo̠̫͐ͫs̟͕͌ͧ .)
• Antimonetarism: Destory all the money, and all our problems will be solved! What's that? The kids are using bread as currency now? Then destroy all the food too! That'll teach 'em!
• Humancentipedism: The folks who think the world would be a better place if everyone's bodies were conjoined so that we can more easily exchange our aeonic cytheropneumatocthonofluids.
• National Humorism: No, not a government run by stand-up comedians. If only. No, this is an ideology where people are sorted into castes based on the four humors of classical western medicine. How does the government decide which humor you belong to? Magick.Ⓡ Just remember, if your local haemomancer decides that you're suffering from an excess of blood, then watch out.
• Australopithecism: They believe Australopithecus Afarensis (lived c. 4,000,000 to 2,900,000 BCE) was the pinnacle of evolution, and it is our moral duty to evolve back to that "ideal form". When asked how exactly they plan to carry out this "guided re-evolution", they tend to change the subject.
• Floresiensism: Same as the above, but they read Lord of the Rings too many times.
• Hollowearthian National Adventurism (Anti-Revisionist): They spend a staggering portion of the nation's wealth on sending expeditions to "The World Within". Hwaette didst thou say'st, sceptick? Thyne inuestmente shalle bee return'd to thee, swell'd inn sise bye an hundr'dfold!
• Fortissimocracy: A group of people who sincerely believe that the louder you say something, the truer it becomes! There's no way that could possibly backfire on them!

 

[Divergent54]

Here's some obscure futuristic ideologies that I'm not sure if it's covered or have already been named:

Pan-autovorism = the idea that all multicellular living things including plants and animals have souls and deserve not to get eaten. Eating both plants (veganism) and animals (carnivore) is wrong and as such, the only ethical thing to do is cloning parts of your own body for self-consumtion in an effort to eliminate any immoral acts inflicted upon other living beings. Life is truly sacred and must be respected

Neoprimitivism = the elimination of industrial technology in society through back-to-nature lifestyle promotions. Goes back in pre-industrial ages from iron age, bronze age, copper age, and the stone ages.

Pancyborgism = the flesh is weak and as such everyone must be upgraded with technological implants and prosthetics

Theocorporatism = society is run by corporations who also function as religious institutions. Employers are also priests and preachers of the corporate religion. With multiple corporations came multiple denominations and beliefs.

Hyperpatriarchism = the elimination of cis-women through the development of human cloning via artificial womb and the creation of a single-sex species via deliberate femicide

Hypermatriarchism = the elimination of cis-men through the development of parthenogenesis technology and the creation of a single-sex species via deliberate androcide

Monoracialism = the elimination of different skin pigmentation in humans through forced genetic modification of populations towards a neutral single colour like grey, violet, or orange or something

Monosexism = elimination of all sexes through the creation of an artificial single-sex species

Pangenism = the idea that personhood rights and even citizenship ought to extend to all those that have gained sentience and metacognition. This includes true-AI, uplifted animals, extremely genetically-modified « ex-humans » like true furries etc, cyborgs, uplifted cyborg-animals, etc. The idea that humans should only be counted as people is anthropocentric.

Anthropism = human supremacist ideology

Technism = AI supremacist ideology

Adaptism = climate change is real but it's better that we adapt to the future climate rather than reverse the course towards pre-industrial climates. Raise the sea walls and move inland, develop GMO drought-resistent crops, etc. Forget the past, let's look forward to the future.

Technocorporatism = a society run mostly by corporations who are then run by for-profit artificial intelligences

 

[Višeslav]

A compilation of smaller posts:

Richard Osborne (Banned member):

Racial Communism - Only the "true race" (insert race here) can achieve perfect communism and other races would be best of on reservations or enslaved (socialized slave ownership).

Moralocracy - Psychological test determine who the most altruistic and ethical people are and their put in charge.

@SeaCambrian:

Teudism: early medieval "tribal" titles ("of the Angles and Saxons", "of the Franks", "of the Romans" etc.) evolve directly into "popular" sovereignty instead of being solidified as kingdoms.

@Atterdag:

Monarcho-Socialism: Kings force the capitalist class to share their wealth with the people to prevent the lower classes from revolting and the capitalists to become to powerful.

@KingOnTheEdge:

Egalitarian Imperialism-the idea that to protect the freedom of the home nation's people they must conquer new peoples, which incidentally are now the nation's people who need protecting

@Dylanperr:

Mutualist-Imperialism : A system where colonists and native people work together to improve colonies.

@John Fredrick Parker:

Constitutional Catocracy - like a constitutional monarchy, only the monarch’s a cat

 

[Sarthak]

Habsburg Imperialism

The only nation on this planet that can even contemplate to unite all ethnicity's of this scale is none other than the Habsburg Empire under the Glorious Kaiser! - Klemens von Metternich

Austrians! Hungarians! Slovaks! Slovenians! Bohemians! Poles! Italians! Croats! Bosniaks! Romanians! Serbs! In anytime before this, it would have been impossible to even think that we would all stand united! But today we stand united under the banner of the Gold and Obsidian Flag! Long Live the Kaiser and Long Live the Empire! - Karl Phillip, Prince of Schwarzenburg.


Habsburg Imperialism is an ideology created by Klemens von Metternich after the end of the Napoleonic Wars in Europe and after the Concert of Europe and Vienna. The famous diplomat and foreign minister, was very much worried about the evocation of nationalism throughout the continent in the aftermath of the decades long wars. The multiethnic and multi-national Habsburg Empire, he knew would implode on itself.

The subsequent years from 1815-23 saw the Austrian Empire along with all it's intellectuals begin to formulate a common derivative of uniting all the ethnicity's together. Thus became borne, the ideology of Habsburg Imperialism. Despite it's name, it does not mean the annexation or conquest of foreign lands in it's entirety. It was used to mean that the Habsburgs united the Imperium. Due to this ideology, called by some as a proto-doctrine, a common script for all languages within the empire was hammered out by the state. Spoken languages and language formats remained taught, however the common writing format meant that much of the problems and headaches pertaining to ethnic problems were resolved in the economic and political level as well. Then, to the common people, the unity through the monarch was made important for the country. A National Council was formed based on the population distribution of ethnic groups in the country with the Ukrainians gaining 3 seats, Poles gaining 10 seats, Slovaks gaining 8 seats, Croats gaining 14 seats, Italians gaining 18 seats, Romanians gaining 18 seats, Bohemians gaining 20 seats, and Germans and Hungarians gaining 25 seats each.

This doctrine also called for economic protectionism and to increase economic competition within the industrial boundaries of the ethnic groups to make economic productivity become raised even further and thus make the Empire's economy much more firm and secure from the groundbase level.

Eventually in adherence to this ideology and doctrine, the name 'Austrian Empire' was scrapped in favor of the name 'Habsburg Empire' to finally unite all the ethnic groups under one flag. Till date, it has been the foundation for all multi-ethnic states all around the world, and the Habsburg Empire continues to exist to this day, as a major power on the world stage, with its powerful military and powerful economic base.

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[Grundal]

Definitely thought-provoking! If you're interested in expanding on this setting, I'd love to know how they handle political corruption, and whether there's any degree of democracy or accountability. I'm also interested in what counts as "the most extreme possible manner" of carrying out a law. I imagine the list of offenses punishable by death is very long. There's a lot of potential in this setting for an exploration of the question "What happens when the state's all-or-nothing method gets turned against the state itself?"

The very first iterations of this sort of state would be highly unstable. Later versions would have....extraordinarily thorough lists undoubtedly. And that last point is very apt. The answer is massive civil wars of truly horrific proportions.

That sounds fascinating! Would make a great setting for a comedy, or for a gritty drama about ruthless political backstabbing. I'm not sure I understand how the system works. Does the state assign people to various groups or schools of thoughts that they consider radical? Is it more spontaneous, with people seeking out these groups on their own? If one of these parties or movements gets too popular, upsetting the delicate balance, does the state step in and reassign people to less popular ideologies?

think of it as a society where communities and culture revolves around different monasteries of philosophical though, but all share this common belief system that is the basis of extremis homeostasis. those who seek out the very opposites to their starting ideologies and do so repeatedly ( as in they don't just shift ideologies once, but more like seek out the alternatives repeatedly and grapples with them) throughout their lives form a "sort" of government in a manner similar to the head of a monastery or the dalai lama. the idea is that those who repeatedly grapple with the various ideologies at the various ends of the spectrum of options have a more complete philosophical view and are less possessively ideological and doctrinal. Or that is one interpretation of the idea.


Here are some more ideologies, some of which are from other sites but interesting enough:

As Zeus once overthrew his father Cronus and the Titans, just as Cronus had once overthrown his father Uranus. Given how they treated him, it should've came as no surprise when Hephaestus, god of the forge, craftsmanship and mechanization followed in the family tradition by overthrowing his father Zeus and claiming his position as the new ruler of Olympus.

Hephaestus was never strong enough to face his tormentors directly, so he used his specialization to cheat so he wouldn't have to. He defeated Ares, god of war by ending first glory and heroism in war by making a world where the greatest, most heroic warrior could be unceremoniously shot by a conscript who didn't even want to be there without even seeing the face of his enemy, then ending war altogether by inspiring the creation and distribution of weapons so terribly powerful neither side dared use them least their enemies retaliate in kind, Hera by making machines rendering her notion of family and societal roles were economically impractical and Aphrodite by creating a beauty greater than her.

Basically, greco-roman mythology turned into a monotheistic religion by Hephaestus' massacre of all his tormentors, combined with a religious imperative for building tools and machines to overcome preexisting weaknesses and a sort of reverse warrior culture where the weaklings who cheat by inventing better weaponry or agriculture and medicine letting their armies outnumber the enemy, etc are preferable to the honorable warriors.


a sort of combination of polytheism and Platonicism. Imagine a society where in a period when belief in the pantheon of gods is declining, somebody latches onto the concept of "Platonic Ideals" and manages to revitalize the religion by mixing the two.

The result is a sort of "Divine Idealism", that re-imagines the gods not as superpowered people, but as the Ideal embodiment of the concepts they represent. So for example, the "God of War" would be conceived of as the ideal warrior in the ideal war, with associated teachings about what those things are. Rather than worshiping and entreating the gods, they would be regarded as ideals to strive for. It would be a more philosophical than theistic approach to religion, with each "Divine Ideal" having a large set of ideals to follow (and for people to argue over).

And perhaps most important for the effect this has on the world they become more resistant to both disproof and exposure to other cultures. In the former case because as abstract ideals there's nothing anyone can point to as objective disproof; and in the latter because by not making claims about actual personified gods, they don't directly clash with other religious mythologies.


So long as paying to support the poor is cheaper for the wealthy than hiring mercenaries to protect themselves and their possessions from the threat of thieves or revolution, do it. So basically welfare but thought of as protection money rather than a moral imperative. And like with any protection money deal, both sides have to keep up their end of the bargain, if theft and rioting rises to the point where mercenaries again become cheaper, the deal's off, so the poor need to self-police themselves or lose everything.

.....

Unironic belief in prayer-fed deities. Implications are that if the religion ever dies out, so does the deity and the afterlife it created for the deceased faithful, so the only way to maintain your own paradisaical reward is to maintain the long-term survival of your community/the religion, and the need to stop foreigners from worshiping foreign deities/make sure there are more of you worshiping your deity than of them worshiping theirs, since if critical mass is reached, their deity will become real and can threaten you and/or your deity won't be strong enough to stop it.



Well it used to be believed that a man should not be allowed to vote unless he had property and thus stake in a nation. But what if you took this to the logical extreme and most literal interpretation of a plutocracy? You literally buy your votes. Perhaps eligible people might be given one base vote but then richer people could pay an increasing amount of money for additional votes and who people vote for is often included in things like job contracts or landlord agreements. Meanwhile particularly for local elections uncommitted voters are often swayed by candidates offering to provide public services out of their own pocket as much as anything else in a romanesc manor.


Here are some more of mine:
a debt based honor system. In the society even when you are born the children are indebted to their parents just for existing. And all indebted to the gods. All people in the society are basically serfs to whomever holds their debt...and whomever holds the debt trade ownership of it to another. While not necessarily likely, the richest man in the society could find himself indebted and bound to serve a homeless vagrant, and the entirety of the society would demand his death if he refused to do so.

Social hierarchies are....strange in this place to say the least.


Another society:
Its justice believes in an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. They also believe taking life is immoral and not justifiable under any circumstances. Thus all who are conscripted to fight necessary wars for survival will all inevitably be executed after wars end. The entire military down to the officers and generals are conscripts who are forcibly trapped in service. Furthermore, since law enforcement sometimes may be forced into situations where a life could be taken, law enforcement also consists of conscripts and the condemned. Killing is often outsourced to foreigners so as to keep the society from imploding.

 

[MagnusSA]

Then I'll start with a few

National Constructivism: A rejection of neorealism , national constructivists state that instead of international relations being innate and states must thus compete and either be dominated or seek the protection of other states, are instead constructed by the nations and cultures that spawned them, and so is in its best interest to protect and further that culture without stepping on any other country's toes. You may win a war one day then lose one the next, and then your country is destroyed. Instead, states must cooperate in protecting each other while letting countries exercise their culture as their wish. In addition, since this is a future where pure democracy is considered a failure, democracy must be somewhat limited in order to prevent division in culture, especially two-party systems.

In practice, national constructivist countries will enter into a military alliance while respecting economic and information (censorship) limitations by that country, to prevent dominating relationships. For example, China will deal with states it may otherwise consider unsavory like Iran, without attempting to economically or culturally dominate that country with its might. Mutual alliance and live and let live, so we don't destroy each other, aren't destroyed by other states, and don't destroy ourselves by democratic division.

Civicism: Originating in America, civicism states that the only culture that should exist is civil behavior, although beyond that leaves culture alone. This will allow nations to interact with each other without states as intermediaries, and will thus, in theory, increase freedom and economic efficiency. When all the cultures of the world are compatible, a world federation of countries can unite and do Star Trek stuff.

In practice, civicist states will adopt unified laws, either as stated in a manifesto or jointly decided upon by an international body, in order to mold their cultures to be more like each other (in how they interact with each other, things like language and religion are generally left alone except where they conflict with law). They will then slowly unite with each other economically, militarily, politically. They will also attempt to spread these laws to other states. Given that they are dedicated to conquering the world and, in the eyes of the nations of the world, eradicating their culture, they are very much looked down on. The irony of a revolutionary internationalist ideology superficially similar to communism has originated in America is not lost on anyone, but Lenin the Soviet Union is about as relevant to people of the future as Robespierre and revolutionary France are to us.

Dynamism: Dynamism wishes for greater autonomy from and decentralization of the state, and views the state as an aggregate of local constituents, and so strengthening these will overall strengthen the state. Where a more unitary state will be too busy attempting to force its citizens to do its bidding, a dynamic state will be united by constituents that voluntarily ally in dealing with foreigners.

In practice, dynamism ranges from simply recognizing autonomy in federations, to the "state" being merely a constitutions of limited commitments that all constituents have agreed upon. In very dynamic countries, either being the cause of that dynamism or being caused by that dynamism, weapons ownership is nearly universal, and so governance can only be by unanimous consent, and local (sometimes very local, rural towns or even neighborhoods) constituents are more able to achieve consensus. Constituents may be member states, republics, kingdoms, tribes, cities, towns, or neighborhoods.

Gynmegandrism (need better name, I'm not very creative): Drawing from the simple observation that a higher proportion of men to women leads to greater amounts of crime and civil conflict, and that the natural birthrate is slightly higher for male children than female children, gynmegandrism seeks to artificially control the ratio through in vitro fertilization. If the ratio is not corrected in the hospital, adherents argue, it will be corrected on the battlefield, as it has been throughout all of history. They point to long periods of peace as times of increasing frustration and violence among men, which are then culled in war, followed by periods of strong social stability in the aftermath. Women can share a man, however uncomfortably, but men cannot share a woman without wanting to kill each other, biologically. To them, the alternative to gynmegandrism is war. The exact optimal ratio is debated, but five women per four men is suggested.

In practice, in countries that implement gynmegandrism men are very calm, sometimes this also leads to lower crime rates, but also sometimes to less creativity in art and science. These countries tend to be quite socially conservative, although not really patriarchal, as they seem to not need it. Open polygamy is uncommon, but in these countries married men having mistresses is considered completely normal, and they have a duty to keep it secret. Male homosexuality is generally frowned upon, especially by the women who are thus locked out, while female homosexuality is seen as completely normal. Female agitation in the form of crime and such does happen, but adherents argue that if the ratio was the opposite it would be infinitely worse.

Will try to think of some more

 

[Etruscan-enthusiast35]

Bolivarism: Taking its name from Simón Bolívar, Bolivarism is an ideology which presses the importance of "Pan-Latinoism." In essence it calls for the unity of the various Spanish speaking Latino people's across the American Continent. The ideology also calls for the reclaiming of territories from non-Spanish speaking nations(American-Southwest, Acre, Falklands, etc.). Bolivarism also places emphasis on the idea of defending the moral fiber of the Latino people from the false teachings of Protestantism and Mormonism.

In practice, bolivarism is quite fringe, only possessing legally recognized parties in Mexico, Panama, Colombia, and Bolivia. The issues rise from the resemblance to Fascism possessed by Bolivarism, leading to many outside observers viewing it an offshoot of Fascism. Other issues include the debate among various followers of this ideology which dialect of Spanish is the "correct" one, leading to a noted level of tension across the different local variants of Bolivarism. Confounding matters is the idea that such an ideology would encourage violence against those cultures and languages which may have a significant influence on those nations targeted by this ideology(The guarani language in Paraguay, the large ethnic Italian population in Argentina). In certain countries, such as the United States, the actions of extremist groups in Texas and California has seen Bolivarism become labeled as a terrorist movement, further hurting the ideologies ability to gain ground in many areas.

 

[Miranda Brawner]

Intriguing stuff, @Etruscan-enthusiast35 ! I'm curious about what kind of attitudes the Bolivarians might have on slavery, and on the caste system in general. And do they share Bolivar's view that "America is ungovernable"?

On a different note, here are some very short descriptions of ideologies that I've been thinking about. Let me know if there are any of them you'd like me to describe in more detail.

• Paragonism: The nation should be a constitutional monarchy where the Sovereign Majesty is granted considerable power, but only on the condition that they act as a paragon of all the virtues at all times. There is a council for each of the virtues listed in the constitution, and each council can unilaterally depose the monarch whenever they catch the monarch engaging in a sinful act.
• Adventurism: The belief that to be respectable member of society, you have to go on a "merry adventure" every now and then. Sounds harmless enough, except that these adventures can range from robbing a bank, to wire-tapping the CIA, to becoming a pirate and starting a protection racket on the high seas. Oh, and when the entire country decides to go on a "national adventure"? Yeah, that's it really gets wild.
• Fair Price System: An economic system where nearly all government services are delegated to small, privately owned businesses. However, the elected government has the exclusive right to set the price for all goods and services, and shopkeepers are strictly forbidden by raising or lowering prices by even the tiniest amount. The legislature spends much of its time debating on what a fair price should be for a used tricycle in terms of cherry tomatoes, and so forth.

 

[Thomas Jefferson]

Nomadism: The belief that humanity went wrong when we began to practice permanent agriculture, and everybody should return to living as hunter-gatherers or herdsmen.

Bohemianism: The belief that the government should encourage people to be as avant-garde in their personal lives as possible.

Ultraradical Centrism: The belief that an authoritarian government with extensive censorshsip powers is needed to overcome political divisions.

 

[SeaBos]

Automatism: An ideology that views humans (at least as they are now) as inherently given to bigotry and prejudice, with the solution being to create a government and society that can act automatically and autonomously (hence the name) of human mental involvement. Careers are decided through rigorous adherence to meritocratic exams that slot each person into where they can best serve as a cog in the machinery of society. Those that test into the highest positions of society are tasked with interpreting and applying the legal code literally, often without seeing who their policies are affecting. For example, a judge in an automatic court would only communicate with someone accused of a crime through written memos that would be edited to ensure that no information about race, ethnicity, gender or religion could sway the judge when they proclaimed the punishment.

On a broader scale, automatic societies will create fairness between provinces by periodically redrawing them so that all provinces have the same population and when possible adhere to longitude and and latitude lines for boundaries.

Spoiler: Example: Provinces in Automatic America

 

[Thomas Jefferson]

Esoteric Ochlocracy: The belief that large crowds are imbued with a form of spiritual wisdom, and that consequently important state decisions should be made through unorganized mass assemblies.

 

[Aghasverov]

Apocrytocracy: The belief that no matter what form of government exists as "window dressing", that all matters of real import are in fact determined by a small and secretive coterie of long-serving civil service professionals and high-ranking military personnel, along with a select few individuals from the "private sector" with expertise, intelligence and/or insight, whose ranks seldom change no matter what the latest election results are - and that all in all, it's probably a good thing

 

[Liam Johnson of The Army]

Religious Transhumanism.
The believe that the best way to perserve tradition is through technology,they worship the abrahamic God as tech deity for he gave humanity it’s needed intelegince to build machines of great strenght.