AHC/WI: Russo-American Special Relationship

iddt3

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One of the weird historical tidbits that's always amused me is the degree of positive relations between Russia and the US during the 19th Century, given that one was a liberal Republic, and the other a bastion of reactionary monarchism. There were decent realpolitik reasons for said friendship, but, other than the sale of Alaska, it never seemed to amount to much. Your challenge is to draw the two continental titans into as close a relationship as possible by the 20th century. Bonus points if you do it via a successful Decembrist revolution or something similar, but genuine good feelings at all levels for each other in both countries is the aim.
 
Turn the British into the Great Satan of the early USA? I'm thinking have them join in against the Union during the American Civil War resulting in a forced peace that leaves a rump Confederacy independent that's effectively a British puppet. American jingoism results in a mass military buildup along both sides of the border, and Russia is by default America's greatest coaligned power. This results in lots of lavish yet empty promises, but a later buildup in trade between Vladivostok and San Francisco. Japan allies with the British, and as a result of the Russo-Japanese War it turns into a general war between Russia and America versus Japan and Britain, resulting in a land victory for the former that overruns Afghanistan, Korea, and Canada but a detente at sea where the Anglo-Japanese rule supreme. Naval buildup by the Americans eventually results in a strategic defeat at sea that brings Britain to the negotiation table despite still blockading the hell out of both countries, resulting in a de facto transfer of land where the Russians take Afghanistan, Korea and Manchuria either formally or informally, the Americans take the Canadian Rockies and everything west of it(maybe Alberta too?), the British take Hawaii and the American Caribbean holdings, and Japan takes the Philippines despite having a very weak hold on it and constant warring with rebels.

As a result of the incredible economic disruption caused by this war, citizenry in all of these country are angry at their respective governments but view their cobelligerent ally in the war as their closest ally.
 
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iddt3

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It just seems like it has the potential to wonderfully overturn the preexisting balance of power, and if the Government of Russia liberalizes, the two countries actually have a ton in common.
 

Driftless

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A bit of a tangent, but consider the East to West breadth of both countries core areas and territorities on Dec 31, 1899. How many time zones do they cover in total?
 
Maybe have American troops actually along side the Russians in the Crimean War? Or perhaps Russian troops fight for the Union in the American Civil War?

Not sure how you get that to happen though.
 

iddt3

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Maybe have American troops actually along side the Russians in the Crimean War? Or perhaps Russian troops fight for the Union in the American Civil War?

Not sure how you get that to happen though.

That's why I was thinking about having the Decemberists succeed. Russia and America OTL had moderate convergent interests and pretty much no divergent ones, if you add in ideological convergence you might have enough overlap to form the basis of a real alliance.

Maybe something like Napoleon has more success in Europe, and the Tsar ends up being deposed/replaced by people in favor of moderate liberalism. Once it shakes out the result is a uniquely Russian Constitutional semi monarchy with real power invested in the Duma, and a gradually broadening franchise. Long term Russia modernizes rather more quickly than OTL, but is still expansionist around it's borders, making the Great Game even more heated than OTL. The US does worse in the war of 1812 (Minor border revisions in Maine, the UK refuses to end impressment) and as a result holds more of a grudge. There isn't quite the same Jacksonian reaction as OTL, as there is consensus across the political spectrum for the need to support industrial development and National Banks, though there is still a North South divide (Less UK investment and more fear means that the US has a bit of a siege mentality, growth is largely as OTL due to more activist government policy). The US sends observers and some volunteers during an Alt-Crimean War driven by Russian Pan Slavism/Manifest destiny equivalent, and Russia pulls something like a draw out of the war.

Come Lincoln's election, the South jumps ship as OTL, but the UK is more willing to back the South (at an elite level at least) due to perceived American threatening behavior. Russia escalates support for the Union, the UK escalates it's support for the South, something stupid happens and you have an early WWI. The UK gets a bloody nose/popular discontent and pulls out, and the Union, with token Russian contingents, puts down the revolt as OTL from there. The ties forged between the US and Russia during wartime are strengthened post war into the US's first foreign alliance, part of which includes the transfer of Alaska to the US and US investment in Russia.
 
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