AHC: More British Dominions

[Aichi72]

With a PoD after 1900, by 2020, have the majority of people in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand consider themselves to be British and royalist. (Please note that the Québécois are exempt from the British part, that's probably a bit ASB.)

Bonus 1: Have the above result in much closer economic, financial, political, cultural, and military bonds between those three countries and the UK.

Bonus 2: Have all of the above include another country that OTL was or is a Dominion/Commonwealth realm at some point.

 

[Peg Leg Pom]

Britain has to hold the Malay Barrier in 1942 and later actively promote links with the Dominions rather than Kow Tow to the US and join the E.E.C.

 

[Analytical Engine]

Britain has to hold the Malay Barrier in 1942 and later actively promote links with the Dominions rather than Kow Tow to the US and join the E.E.C.

Australia and New Zealand are one thing.

Canada has the US literally next to it. American influence and trade links are always going to be a factor for Ottawa.

 

[Aichi72]

Australia and New Zealand are one thing.

Canada has the US literally next to it. American influence and trade links are always going to be a factor for Ottawa.

Could a different outcome in favor of Canada in the Alaska boundary dispute help?

 

[Analytical Engine]

Could a different outcome in favor of Canada in the Alaska boundary dispute help?

Unlikely. The vast majority of the US would still be, you know, right there.

You'd have to either hobble the US economy, or make it hostile to the UK. In which case, Canada is in a precarious position because, as I've already mentioned, the US is right there.

 

[Chernabog90]

Maybe Rhodesia and Kenya if they could promote more immigration to those two place

 

[ArtosStark]

Australia and New Zealand are one thing.

Canada has the US literally next to it. American influence and trade links are always going to be a factor for Ottawa.

Not necessarily. The American Economy was big and right next door for quite a few years without American trade surpassing British. If the will is there on both sides Closer ties to Britain than the US are probably possible. Though American trade and influence would still be there, as well.

 

[Analytical Engine]

Not necessarily. The American Economy was big and right next door for quite a few years without American trade surpassing British. If the will is there on both sides Closer ties to Britain than the US are probably possible. Though American trade and influence would still be there, as well.

There's also the issue that the Liberal Party was more pro-American, whilst the Conservative Party was more pro-British.

 

[ArtosStark]

There's also the issue that the Liberal Party was more pro-American, whilst the Conservative Party was more pro-British.

That’s true. A pro-British Canada would probably require Conservative governments at some critical junctures.

 

[Pelranius]

Maybe Rhodesia and Kenya if they could promote more immigration to those two place

There's no possible amount of immigration that would make Kenyans or Zimbabweans feel British, especially with a post 1900 POD, short of Britain granting the natives full rights of British citizenship, including free movement to the British Isles, and unconditional franchise for electing MPs to Westminister.

 

[Analytical Engine]

There's no possible amount of immigration that would make Kenyans or Zimbabweans feel British, especially with a post 1900 POD, short of Britain granting the natives full rights of British citizenship, including free movement to the British Isles, and unconditional franchise for electing MPs to Westminister.

Which, let's face it, is absolutely 100% not happening.

The best place for this is probably the Caribbean.

 

[merlin]

How about - Argentina - a country with large British investments - parts of their railway still uses old British equipment. The ties, of British banking and other investments, might have induced an Argentine Government to explore even greater ties to ensure a long-term relationship for export of beef etc. Firstly by joining the British Imperial Preference and then the 'Commonwealth'.

 

[Ato]

If a more constitutionally codified Dominion structure had been in place, and things had gone different in Malaya in the 40s I could see Singapore possibly staying, and perhaps Malta too. Other than that The only other possibilities are a breakaway Anglo dominated cape province from the rest of south Africa in the early 1900s, or a successful West Indies Federation.

 

[Atrophied]

I agree about atleast singapore if it didnt fall might be possible . Also as a alternative for a indian ocean base could be keep ceylon i think as a new idea for this topic?

 

[Dr Dee]

This could be wildly wrong but if India was partitioned in a different way, could some of the resulting nations choose to remain as Dominions? I'm thinking of city states rather than great swathes of India.

 

[Peg Leg Pom]

There's no possible amount of immigration that would make Kenyans or Zimbabweans feel British, especially with a post 1900 POD, short of Britain granting the natives full rights of British citizenship, including free movement to the British Isles, and unconditional franchise for electing MPs to Westminister.

Not from the UK I agree, but they could have been flooded with workers from British India. Still that's not going to convince native Africans that they want to be British.

 

[Pelranius]

Not from the UK I agree, but they could have been flooded with workers from British India. Still that's not going to convince native Africans that they want to be British.

Indians would still want equal rights.

 

[Peg Leg Pom]

And they're more likely to get them from the British than from the native Africans who historically kicked them out after robbing them blind as soon as they could.

 

[Pelranius]

And they're more likely to get them from the British than from the native Africans who historically kicked them out after robbing them blind as soon as they could.

The British still aren't going grant the Kenyan and Zimbabwean Indians freedom of movement to the British Isles and unconditional franchise.

And the Indians won't be willing to be British serfs anymore than Hawaiian Asians were to be second class citizens.

Not to mention, why the heck would the British squander at least tens of millions of pounds to move millions of Indians to Africa when there are already Africans present?

 

[marktaha]

There's no possible amount of immigration that would make Kenyans or Zimbabweans feel British, especially with a post 1900 POD, short of Britain granting the natives full rights of British citizenship, including free movement to the British Isles, and unconditional franchise for electing MPs to Westminister.

Independence with Dominion status for Southern Rhodesia in 1953 rather than federation. All Britons wanting to move there in late 40s and early 50s allowed to.