i am sorry but where is the american troops really who should be send to europe to fight against the germans
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Fighting in the Pacific. Since the fighting had stopped in Europe before the Americans could mobilize, Roosevelt decided to shift American attention to the war in the Pacific first. They saw no great need to send American troops to Europe because there was no fighting, but now of course if the Americans are shifting their attention to Europe, and if the French decline the deal then the US forces will be primarily sent to Europe.
but do remember though this a peace treaty in which essentially the central powers are winning and have the edge, so if France rejects the offer which I think they should and wait for Americans to arrive they could get central asia
I actually plan on rewriting this timeline in the near future, and when I do it will be more indepth, including things of culture and technology.
An Unexpected Peace
It was a very close decision. The Cabinet of the Republican controlled presidency voted along pro/anti-war lines. A difference of 2 decided that France would accept Germany’s peace offer. Of course the President and his cabinet were not enough to decide the peace. All of France’s allies had to be informed. The United Kingdom and the United States were shocked at this development. They were not informed of this peace deal. The English speaking nations were not completely opposed to the deal; they would both get territory out of it. However what restrained them from praising the deal was that they had expected more, and had promised more to allies who had entered the war after the start. President Theodore Roosevelt met with his own cabinet to discuss the peace deal France had accepted. America would get to keep all the territory in the Pacific it captured. What they did not like however was the fate of the Philippines. Both the UK and US had been smuggling weapons to the Filipino rebels in the southern islands in order to hold off Japan from controlling the entire country. The peace deal gave Japan the entire Philippines, when the southern Islands had little to no Japanese presence. They were wiling to accept peace, but not under these terms.
Germany’s allies also had been unaware of the deal going on. Russia in particular was surprised. Germany did not give up anything that wasn’t theirs, except Russia’s position in the Cairo Pact. General Vladimir Ulyanov was quite upset with Germany. On August 9th Russia broke off diplomatic relations with Germany out of anger. Russia withdrew its diplomats from Gent.
The Conference at Gent heated up, as diplomats tried to get a better understanding of the situation. France and Germany agreed to a cease fire, effective August 10th. At Gent the remaining members of each side; The United States, The United Kingdom, The Republic of France, and the Republic of Italy for the western alliance, and the German Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Kingdom of Two Sicily’s for the eastern alliance, would hammer out a final peace deal for Europe. The Treaty of Gent would end the war, following most of the provisions for peace offered by Germany.
. Cease of hostilities
. Alsace and Lorrain to Germany
. Thailand to be divided between France and Great Britain
. Morocco to be divided between Germany and France
. Germany withdraws from the middle east and the Cairo Pact
. The southern half of Madagascar to be given to France
. All German islands in the Pacific to be given to the nation occupying them
Russia and other countries that did not declare peace with Germany were still at war. Russia and her satellites in the Balkans and Caucuses were still at war with the western alliance along with China, Japan, Turkey, and Persia. Fighting in these areas would continue.
There were mixed reactions to the peace of Gent in October of 1911. In France there were cries of thanks and screams of bloody murder. The socialists in France were praising the government for ending this futile war being fought on behalf of the haves, while the Imperialists were outraged that they exchanged territory in continental France for territory in Africa and the Pacific.
The Republicans, who had been the most powerful political party in France since the foundation of the 2nd Republic were split. There were the conservative republicans who opposed the peace and sided with the Imperialists, and the Liberal Republicans who sided with the socialists. The Republican party would suffer greatly in the next election, losing the presidency and the Assembly. Members of the Republicans fled the party to join other parties. Some joined the Socialist Party, making it one of the two front parties.
The Imperialist party lost favor amongst the people of France after their defeat in the Sino-French war in the 1890s. The continued to exist until beginning of the great war. Near the end of the Great War they reorganized themselves as the Nationalist Party. After the war the Nationalist Party and the Socialist Party would become the two front running party, with the Republicans forming a smaller third party. The years after the war would not be kind to France. Tensions would rise between the Nationalists and the Socialists. In the 1920s this tension would explode after a highly contested election, leading to civil war.
The UK and US had been relatively untouched by the war physically at home, however returning soldiers told stories of the horrors of war, whether it be trenches in eastern France, or the jungles of the south pacific. The generation returning from the war would become known as the Shattered Generation.
We'll see. Not everyone is happy. The War isn't quite over as Russia has not come to peace, and as I have forshadowed(well, not so much forshadow as outright said) that France is going to erupt into civil war in the 1920s. Russia is going to have not nice things done to it, and I have more plans for general Vladimir Ulyanov.
Nice effective end to the war. A French civil war following the Great War and trouble a-brewing in Russia? Tantalizing...
I'll make a map of the situation post-Treaty of Ghent if you'd like. PM me if you want anything else made for this excellent TL.
I'll make a map of the situation post-Treaty of Ghent if you'd like. PM me if you want anything else made for this excellent TL.
be interesting to see now how the Austro Hungarian empire reacts and whether they make peace straight away or what and do the Italians decide to keep on fighting and Russia will soon have to make peace if the Western allies focus all their efforts onto crushing Russia
That would be great.
Well, the Austro-Hungarians have made peace already, as have the Italians. The only eastern power left fighting is Russia.
Russia Alone
After Germany and Austria-Hungary made peace with the western alliance, the Russian Empire was standing alone. With the heir to the throne a mere child, and the eldest family member who could serve as regent fighting on the Manchurian front, this left general Vladimir Ulyanov in charge of the largest nation on the planet. Russia was surrounded on all sides, and Ulyanov refused to admit defeat, yet they were falling back in all directions.In the middle east the Germans were withdrawing from Mesopotamia and Arabia. This allowed the western allies along with the Persians to close in on the Russian forces. By the end of November the Russians were pushed out of Mesopotamia, and by the end of December they were removed from Kurdistan.
In the far east the Chinese and Japanese were making ground. They had control of all territory south of the Amur river, and were making ground north of it. The Japanese had control of Kamchatka and were aiming at moving westward. In central Asia, Chinese troops(mostly Muslims from eastern China) were making ground. They gained control of the land between the Syr Darya and Amu Darya rivers. The Persians were also taking ground in central Asia. The Persians made it as far north as the Amu Darya river.
By the Spring of 1912 the Turks and Persians made ground against the Russians as well in the Caucuses. The Turks gained control of Georgia, which had been suffering a genocidal Diaspora. The Persians had conquered all the Russian territory east of Georgia and south of the Caucus mountains. It’s at the Caucus mountains that the Russians were finally able to hold its enemies back.In the Balkans the Turks were not doing so well against the Russians. They were halted not too far past the Bulgarian southern border by Russian, Bulgarian, and Romanian troops. However in the winter of 1911-1912 an event would change the face of Russia and eastern Europe.
Sparking revolts and arming rebels became a common tactic in the war. The Germans did so in North Africa and Palestine, while the western allies did so in the Philippines. However in January of 1912, the biggest revolt occurred in the entire war. Across eastern Europe nationalities that had been under foreign rule for centuries rose up against powers they saw as occupiers. In the Balkans, anti-Russian nationalists in Bulgaria and Rumania rose up in order to throw off their Russian masters. Inspired by the uprisings in the Balkans, uprisings also began around the Black Sea, in particular the Ukrainians and the Tatars in the Spring of 1912. In the summer of 1912 the Poles, Lithuanians, Latvians, and Estonians would revolt, and finally in the fall the Fins revolt.
As these revolts occurred, the Russian military was forced to divert more and more forces to put down the rebellions, while simultaneously holding back foreign invaders. In the Russian court general Vladimir Ulyanov was becoming more and more of a pariah. The Russian court was full of conspiracies and plots to get rid of Ulyanov, but he would not be removed so easily.
They did in the update An Unexpected Peace. Right before the list of terms of the peace.
Ending the Madness
As the walls began to cave in on Russia, Vladimir Ulyanov refused to give in. Plots to remove him from power were in motion. With revolts in the west, and 4 invading armies surrounding them, the troops were stretched thin, as were the supporters of Ulyanov. On October 3rd the plots and conspiracies would come to fruition. Royal guards in the Palace of St. Petersburg had allied themselves with Catherine Alexandra Romanav*. She is a cousin of the not yet crowned. At 23 she is one of the most influential members of the court. It was rumored at the time, but a well established fact now, that she had sexual relations with high ranking members in the military and the royal guard. She used her connections to orchestrate a coup, just as the former ruler for whom she was named for. The guards stormed the palace at 9:00 pm on October 3rd. They secured vital areas of the Palace, and finally broke into the chamber of Vladimir Ulyanov, but when they did Ulyanov was gone. They searched every inch of the palace but couldn’t find him. When they checked the bed chamber of the Czar to be, Ivan was missing as well. There was no sign of either. It would be discovered that General Ulyanov had been warned about the coup, and before fleeing St. Petersburg he also abducted the Czar to be. The largest manhunt in history was launched to find the Czar and his abductor. Until that time Russia needed a leader, and Catherine was there to take the spot.
She was able to get the guards and the court to recognize her as regent of Russia. On October 6th she ordered the end of fighting. On October 10th an armistice was declared between Russia and all the powers still fighting. President Roosevelt was in a particular hurry to get a treaty signed as quickly as possible before election day in November. A peace conference would be held in Washington D.C. on October 17th. It would be a close call, but the Treaty of Washington would be signed on November 3rd.
At the conference the two sides were represented once again. For the western alliance and their allies it was the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Japan, Italy, Persia, China, and Turkey. For the eastern alliance it was Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Russia. At this conference issues not settled in the treaty of Gent would be settled. Russia was forced to give up a lot in exchange for peace. The following were the main provisions of the treaty.
. All hostilities are to cease
. The governments in Bulgaria and Romania are to be replaced with the nationalist governments
. Russia is to recognize the Independence of the Ukrainian, Polish, Tatar, Lithuanian, Estonian, Latvian, and Finish nations
. Georgia is to be ceded to Turkey as an autonomous nation. All other Russian territory south of the Caucus mountains are to be annexed to Persia
. Russian territory south of the Amu Darya annexed to Persia
. Russian territory between the Amu Darya river and Syr Darya river annexed to China
. Outer Manchuria annexed to China
. Kamchatka annexed to Japan
. The northern Philippines annexed to Japan
. The southern Philippines turned into independent Filipino republic
Much of Russia was upset over the treaty, but it finally brought peace. The world would begin to rebuild, although some scars never heal. Catherine would devote all of Russia’s resources to rebuilding, modernizing, and capturing the man who kidnapped her cousin, the rightful heir to the Throne.
Why are the Philippines being mentioned here I mean in the previous treaty it gave all of them to Japan so surely then Japan wouldn't except this new treaty. Also why was there no details in the peace treaties of anything affecting the Italian states or Austria Hungary
Map please ^_^.
China and Japan has gained a lot from this war, I wonder how the post war world would look like.
China and Japan has gained a lot from this war, I wonder how the post war world would look like.
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