Triple Calamity: What if the Three Most Important Men in the Executive Branch Died in One Night?

Great chapter, Haiti better be annexed soon šŸ˜¤šŸ˜¤šŸ˜¤
This is gonna depend on some congressional debates. Some people (especially democrats) donā€™t want any more black people in the country. Plus Haitians are a whole different culture some politicians are scared to see more non white people in congress. Ones that donā€™t even speak English as a first language. A white supremacists worse fear.
 
Could Haiti be merged into the Dominican state? That way, theyā€™d not see increased Black influence in the senate at least, which might prevent the worst contentions if Haiti is annexed?
 
Could Haiti be merged into the Dominican state? That way, theyā€™d not see increased Black influence in the senate at least, which might prevent the worst contentions if Haiti is annexed?
That is a solution that will be pondered. It would be easier if it were a territory. But The State of Dominica will have a thing or two to say. Dominicans and Haitians arenā€™t well known for being friendlyā€¦ itā€™s even worse ITL.
 
That is a solution that will be pondered. It would be easier if it were a territory. But The State of Dominica will have a thing or two to say. Dominicans and Haitians arenā€™t well known for being friendlyā€¦ itā€™s even worse ITL.
Is it possible for this to end quickly an independence war, and maybe an apology from the United States. Wouldnā€™t the African Americans oppose this war on principle, and fillbuster any attempt to annex the nation? It doesnā€™t seem okay that the United States is becoming worse with a second trail of tears. As if the first one wasnā€™t bad enough. Also what exactly will this lead to? A second native state?
 
That is a solution that will be pondered. It would be easier if it were a territory. But The State of Dominica will have a thing or two to say. Dominicans and Haitians arenā€™t well known for being friendlyā€¦ itā€™s even worse ITL.
That is true! But I do wonder if that would be considered by Washington lawmakers
 
Is it possible for this to end quickly an independence war, and maybe an apology from the United States. Wouldnā€™t the African Americans oppose this war on principle, and fillbuster any attempt to annex the nation? It doesnā€™t seem okay that the United States is becoming worse with a second trail of tears. As if the first one wasnā€™t bad enough. Also what exactly will this lead to? A second native state?
In terms of the natives the Republicans want to clear out all the land that is becoming new states. Native-American tensions have gotten worse even from OTL, the plan to to Centralize most of the reservations in the hot and ā€œuselessā€ southwest. Out of sight out of mind, then relocate them slowly into Sequoya with State support.
 
In terms of the natives the Republicans want to clear out all the land that is becoming new states. Native-American tensions have gotten worse even from OTL, the plan to to Centralize most of the reservations in the hot and ā€œuselessā€ southwest. Out of sight out of mind, then relocate them slowly into Sequoya with State support.
In the long term at least they have a state that was made just for them and ensures political representation in some way due to their concentration there and dominance over its politics.
 
In the long term at least they have a state that was made just for them and ensures political representation in some way due to their concentration there and dominance over its politics.
They will always have a senator or two if they are lucky. Unfortunately Sequoya also has a large white southern population, so Democrats regularly cause some problems. The political and system there was kinda built up to minimize the majority native voice.

Plus that state is also being drilled for all its worth by Standard Oil and Black Gold, with very little going to the fledgling state government.
 
They will always have a senator or two if they are lucky. Unfortunately Sequoya also has a large white southern population, so Democrats regularly cause some problems. The political and system there was kinda built up to minimize the majority native voice.

Plus that state is also being drilled for all its worth by Standard Oil and Black Gold, with very little going to the fledgling state government.
The hope is that if more natives go into the state then some problems will be balanced out, but that Ignores that all of these natives are separate peoples, with separate cultures and separate languages.

Iā€™ll delve into all this a bit more in the 1892 INC
 
The hope is that if more natives go into the state then some problems will be balanced out, but that Ignores that all of these natives are separate peoples, with separate cultures and separate languages.

Iā€™ll delve into all this a bit more in the 1892 INC
I'd imagine they'd ally against the whites out of mutual interests if nothing else.
 
Sorry šŸ¤£. Itā€™s funny how different the two states are already. Within another 10 years the difference will be quite stark
Seriously though Grant is a second Andrew Jackson. Itā€™s extremely evil of him to move people out of their native lands just to prop up one native state no one asked for. Theyā€™re not even given a second state. They also are asked for neighbors on both sides they donā€™t want. I donā€™t know this timeline has gotten extremely dark. Even William T Sherman wanted to stop abuses against them on the reservations. Now Adolf Grant broke whatever last treaties that have been signed. The natives have no reason to work with the government.
 
Seriously though Grant is a second Andrew Jackson. Itā€™s extremely evil of him to move people out of their native lands just to prop up one native state no one asked for. Theyā€™re not even given a second state. They also are asked for neighbors on both sides they donā€™t want. I donā€™t know this timeline has gotten extremely dark. Even William T Sherman wanted to stop abuses against them on the reservations. Now Adolf Grant broke whatever last treaties that have been signed. The natives have no reason to work with the government.
ITL, itā€™s been an RNC plan to do this for over a decade, ever since the Sequoya plan went into action. It also is massively supported among the non native people of the plains.

Many of those ā€˜Treatiesā€™ from our timeline are even more watered down, some are simple white peaceā€™s. Republican presidents tried to simply hold natives in place and give themselves legal outs in the treaty ā€œto move them wherever at an undisclosed dateā€. The Indian wars in many ways were worse.

Sheridan wanted to do this back at the beginning of the 80s but ironically the Liberals were against it. (They still are) though their reasons are less humanitarian and more economical and practical. (Populists, radicals and progressives are some of the only people making the humanitarian argument).

Either way Grant is certainly not off the hook. He couldā€™ve gone the Garfield path and opted to postpone the plan until it became irrelevant but he unfortunately did not.
 
On top of that among people out east Grant is actually incredibly popular. His approval is really high and most academics consider him to be a strong president.

People wonā€™t see him in a proper negative light ITL until the end of the 20th century.
 
ITL, itā€™s been an RNC plan to do this for over a decade, ever since the Sequoya plan went into action. It also is massively supported among the non native people of the plains.

Many of those ā€˜Treatiesā€™ from our timeline are even more watered down, some are simple white peaceā€™s. Republican presidents tried to simply hold natives in place and give themselves legal outs in the treaty ā€œto move them wherever at an undisclosed dateā€. The Indian wars in many ways were worse.

Sheridan wanted to do this back at the beginning of the 80s but ironically the Liberals were against it. (They still are) though their reasons are less humanitarian and more economical and practical. (Populists, radicals and progressives are some of the only people making the humanitarian argument).

Either way Grant is certainly not off the hook. He couldā€™ve gone the Garfield path and opted to postpone the plan until it became irrelevant but he unfortunately did not.
Thanks for telling me. I still love this timeline, this is horrible.
 
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